I've decided to bail on the idea of an internship...

QurazyQuisp

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So, these past few months I've been frantically looking/interviewing for internships for this coming summer in the CS field. I've interviewed with many companies and have a few offers on the table. (Still waiting on one company) However, over the past weekend I've decided to completely scrap the whole idea.

Here's why:
I've always been an entrepreneur of sorts and have been very dis-satisfied with working most of my jobs. I put my all into them and get very little reward. ( a raise here and there, but very little satisfaction) I honestly cannot see myself working for any moderately sized corporation, and that has been reinforced with every interview I have had. I've made quite a bit of money in my entrepreneurial ideas, however it's been fairly inconsistent mainly because school and work occupy most of my time during the school year.

So, that being said, I've finally come up with an idea for a business (Web 2.0ish, although it will have desktop applications working with it) that won't be solely sustained by advertising (like most of the web 2.0 sites) and assuming it proves to be both useful and successful, it should provide a decent revenue stream. The idea addresses and industry that is large and reaches everywhere in the US (and could probably be adapted to work in other countries, assuming laws and such are taken into consideration) and it's a relatively untapped market. There is one major player in the market, however the software they provide is inadequate and is really meant for very small organizations. I've talked a lot with people in the industry (Business owners) and people familiar with software/web start ups and they all are excited about the idea. And assuming any success, there are several other facets of the product that could be added for additional revenue.

I have been told to read The art of the start by Guy Kawasaki, and so far I haven't been turned off to the idea...

I'm planning on starting at least the business plan phase in the next two weeks, with no software development starting until the summer, I think. (If any, it'll be minimal)

I know this is risky, as I'll have little to no income until a) either I get my first client or b) I get funding. But, I'm 21 and have very little to lose. Funding tends to come with the first few clients, so I'll strive for that. Thankfully I have quite a bit of brains available to me, both in software development and starting a business so I won't be going into this blindly.

I plan on starting a blog soon. I don't plan on releasing any of the ideas until there has been a decent amount of the work done. However, I do plan on documenting what's going on and what I've accomplished, right from the start. I'll update the thread when I have that up...
 

Ns1

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fail all around

if you were a real gangster you'd do both at the same time.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: Ns1
fail all around

if you were a real gangster you'd do both at the same time.

It'd be a waste of my time and theirs. Me knowing that I have no interest in a full time job offer from them, and the fact that I'd be limited on my time that I can dedicate to the start up.
 

txrandom

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I'd still do an internship and get a "real" job after graduating. You can still work on your business on your own. If you really think it will take off and you profit off it soon, quit your job. Else you better have a real job or you will go hungry.
 

imported_yovonbishop

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Meh, I think it's important to do the internship regardless of how well you think you'll fare being an entrepreneur. If it doesn't work out, you'll at least have the internship which will make it ten times easier to get a job.
 

sandorski

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Dude, your idea is not original. Nigerian Prince has been done to death.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: Ns1
fail all around

if you were a real gangster you'd do both at the same time.

It'd be a waste of my time and theirs. Me knowing that I have no interest in a full time job offer from them, and the fact that I'd be limited on my time that I can dedicate to the start up.

3 words: back up plan
 

Blieb

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:music:annyyyythinnnggg youuu cannnn dooooo Iiiiiiii can do betterrrrrrrr:music:
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: txrandom
I'd still do an internship and get a "real" job after graduating. You can still work on your business on your own. If you really think it will take off and you profit off it soon, quit your job. Else you better have a real job or you will go hungry.

The problem with working while trying to start something up is that it'll take at least twice as long to get the ball rolling. At my age, and not having a family of my own, few responsibilities except for keeping myself alive, I can't lose much. If I wait longer, the chances of someone else coming in and going through with my idea (or something similar) is getting higher, along with the chances of me actually losing something that's worth something (wife, money, house, blah blah blah). I have been encouraged by many older people who are successful business owners that the time to do it is when you have very little on your plate, and that's now.

I know several people who have graduated with a degree in CS, and no internship (although they have had work experience that is in the CS field, which I have right now) and were very able to get a nice job out of school. An internship would only put me in the playing field with MS, and some other large companies, which I have very little interest in. (Despite being offered an internship with one of them)
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: QurazyQuisp
Originally posted by: txrandom
I'd still do an internship and get a "real" job after graduating. You can still work on your business on your own. If you really think it will take off and you profit off it soon, quit your job. Else you better have a real job or you will go hungry.

The problem with working while trying to start something up is that it'll take at least twice as long to get the ball rolling. At my age, and not having a family of my own, few responsibilities except for keeping myself alive, I can't lose much. If I wait longer, the chances of someone else coming in and going through with my idea (or something similar) is getting higher, along with the chances of me actually losing something that's worth something (wife, money, house, blah blah blah). I have been encouraged by many older people who are successful business owners that the time to do it is when you have very little on your plate, and that's now.

I know several people who have graduated with a degree in CS, and no internship (although they have had work experience that is in the CS field, which I have right now) and were very able to get a nice job out of school. An internship would only put me in the playing field with MS, and some other large companies, which I have very little interest in. (Despite being offered an internship with one of them)

Welp, you seem to have it all figured out, nothing more to see here guys.
 

ggnl

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1) Clients/investors will take you more seriously if you have some real work experience.

2) Unless your parents are supporting you you're going to end up working a second job anyways, because you have to eat. You might as well get one that pays well and continues to develop your skills.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: Ns1


Welp, you seem to have it all figured out, nothing more to see here guys.

My all figured out is, if it doesn't work I'm going to go to gradschool. Which was the plan regardless of whether I start something up or take an internship.

I know I don't have it all figured out, but I've seriously considered it. This wasn't a spur of the moment decision, it's been in the works for the past few months. I've just finally decided to give it a go.
 

Genx87

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I am curious, are you getting a bachelors degree? I believe most universities require an internship or similar work experience for graduation.

Anyways good luck on your venture. It might be hard to get clients with little epxerience. But maybe you can find a friend with experience and have him code while you do the selling.

/shrug
 

Blieb

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I don't want to burst your bubble ... but the tooth fairy has had a successful corner on the market for YEARS.

I'm just sayin' ...

One competitor, poorly managed, not affected by current economy ... it's gotta be the tooth fairy!

Sorry, I'm just having too much fun jumping on the bandwagon.

I say go for it ... :) ... and use all the negative energy from people around here as fuel for your fire ...
 

imported_yovonbishop

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Originally posted by: Genx87
I am curious, are you getting a bachelors degree? I believe most universities require an internship or similar work experience for graduation.

Anyways good luck on your venture. It might be hard to get clients with little epxerience. But maybe you can find a friend with experience and have him code while you do the selling.

/shrug

Hm. Mine didn't.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: Genx87
I am curious, are you getting a bachelors degree? I believe most universities require an internship or similar work experience for graduation.

Anyways good luck on your venture. It might be hard to get clients with little epxerience. But maybe you can find a friend with experience and have him code while you do the selling.

/shrug

We don't have a requirement for an internship. Some degrees do, however both of mine do not.

I'm not planning on going into this alone, I do have people who are interested in helping (part-time) who are very experienced in their respective fields. (Software Engineering, Business and so on).
 

Kirby

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Originally posted by: yovonbishop
Originally posted by: Genx87
I am curious, are you getting a bachelors degree? I believe most universities require an internship or similar work experience for graduation.

Anyways good luck on your venture. It might be hard to get clients with little epxerience. But maybe you can find a friend with experience and have him code while you do the selling.

/shrug

Hm. Mine didn't.

Mine doesn't either, but I'd imagine you'd have a hard time finding a job straight out of college without any experience.
 

QurazyQuisp

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Originally posted by: XxPrOdiGyxX
1 million dollars in 1 year?

I'd be happy with making more than $50,000 the first year. There is a lot of development that has to take place before that's possible though.

Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
Originally posted by: Ns1
fail all around

if you were a real gangster you'd do both at the same time.

He's obviously not OG like BG.

If I had a segway, I'd be more G than BG.