I've believed our political system is broken beyond repair for a while now . . .

DealMonkey

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Excellent ideas on fixing our political system from Wired.com. Definitely one of the better articles from this month's issue. In particular, I believe problem #2 and specifically its solution are the crux of it. The concept of migratring to a popular vote is long overdue and instant run-offs with candidates ranked by voters in order of preference is sheer genius...

6 Ways to Reboot the System

Problem #1: We can't count votes correctly
Solution:
Open-source the voting machines. As the 2000 electoral fiasco proved, nothing in a democracy is more important than counting votes accurately. But old technologies - punchcards, optical scanning, and lever devices - are riddled with flaws. Worse, the current trend is to replace them with electronic voting machines made by companies like Diebold, which have an even scarier record of mysteriously erasing votes. Why do these new devices malfunction? Well, we can't tell: They run on proprietary code that only a few government auditors have been permitted to examine.

The solution is to go open source. Officials in the Australian Capital Territory, that country's Washington, DC, used an open source project to develop their regional voting software, and it runs with 100 percent accuracy. (They checked it in 2001 against a set of hand-counted paper ballots.) "What goes in is what comes out," says Phillip Green, the region's electoral commissioner. The result: software as transparent as democracy ought to be.

Problem #2: The electoral college is broken
Solution:
Move to a popular vote. And make it count with instant runoffs. In this system, voters rank the candidates in order of preference. If the first "winner" doesn't get 50 percent of the vote, the least favorite candidate is dropped, and those votes go to the voters' next favorite candidate. You do a new count, and repeat the process until someone gets 50 percent. This way votes aren't wasted: If voters don't get their first choice, they get something close - their second or third choice. It also allows third parties to emerge without "spoiling it" for like-minded candidates. In 1992, for example, many votes for Perot would have transferred to George Bush Sr., and Clinton might never have triumphed. (The reverse applies to Gore and Nader.) The system hasn't been tried partly because the big parties selfishly don't want to encourage competition, and partly because all that recounting is logistically tricky. But now that we're moving to electronic voting, "the technological barrier vanishes. Computers can do those recounts in an instant," says Rob Richie, executive director of the Center for Voting and Democracy. Digital tech could usher in an age where your vote finally matters.

Problem #3: The press covers elections badly
Solution:
Look to bloggers to dig beneath the news. In the age of Stephen Glass and Jayson Blair, it's easy to be cynical. Will the public ever trust the fourth estate again? Perhaps - thanks to the Googling masses, the world's most powerful fact-checking force. By finding and posting the unvarnished documents that drive the news, the blogosphere helps us figure out if we're being snowed. As soon as the John Kerry/Jane Fonda Photoshop composite emerged, hoaxbusters at Snopes.com quickly located the original undoctored pictures and put them online. TheMemoryHole.org uncovered censored photos of soldiers' caskets coming back from Iraq. A pair of European cryptographers wrote algorithms that cracked open the blacked-out text on Bush's war memos.

Problem #4: Professionals have taken over
Solution:
Outsource the grunt work - and costs - to supporters. Phone banks are a traditional way to contact undecided voters and get out the vote of party faithful, but they're expensive. You have to rent lines and hire wage slaves to make the calls. MoveOn.org has a better idea: a system that uses autodialing technology to route calls to volunteers with cell phones. That way, the candidate doesn't have to pay salaries - or even long distance bills, thanks to free weekend minutes.

Another costly task: collecting voter information. It's traditionally done with pencil and paper and later entered by hand onto a local computer system. But in some precincts, the GOP is sending foot soldiers armed with PDAs door to door to collect the data, which is then uploaded straight into Voter Vault, the party's national get-out-the-vote database of supporters.

Problem #5: Old-style protest doesn't work
Solution:
Try new methods of activism. Protests, once a mainstay of political activity, have lost their mojo. What's needed is a new generation of tech-savvy hell-raisers to create new styles of dissent. At two Davos forums, Swiss agitprop artist Johannes Gees rigged laser projectors to beam enormous messages onto the sides of mountains and buildings. Anyone could SMS a note to be displayed to the world's power elites. (One message asked, "What will our great-grandchildren think of us?") When Bush visited the UK last fall, the British government tried to keep his movements a secret - so a group of smartmobbers set up a texting system to deliver automatic updates of the president's whereabouts. And at the Republican National Convention, technologist Joshua Kinberg planned to unleashed "Bikes Against Bush" - bicycles capable of spraying slogans on the road as they roll, like mobile dot matrix printers. The takeaway: An angry Web site isn't enough. Digital protest has to hack the real world.

Problem #6: TV turns politics into a money game
Solution:
Stop buying airtime and start webvertising. The cost of tube time distorts the political process by forcing candidates to spend too much time dialing for dollars instead of meeting with voters. But relief is in sight: Nielsen's own numbers reveal that television's dominance is waning, particularly among the young. TiVo and its ilk change the mix even more, since viewers can just zoom past most commercials. Meantime, there's the Web. For MoveOn.org's "Bush in 30 Seconds" contest, more than 1,500 people sent in broadcast-ready spots edited on their laptops. Another 110,000 rated the spots to pick a winner. When CBS refused to air the winning ad, citing US "standards and practices," the story was picked up as news by the networks. Even CBS's own correspondent raised the question of censorship. Whether MoveOn was muzzled or not, online ads don't need to follow broadcast rules (no "I approved this message" line, for example), so they can be livelier than TV's typical bland fare. And both the Bush and Kerry campaigns release ads on the Web hoping to draw news coverage.
 

Train

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#1 Good Idea

#2, sorta bad idea, going to popular vote instantly makes New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, and other huge population centers, the center of attention. Rural america is left in the Dust.

#3 sticky one, sure the press sucks, but not everyone is online. A lot of americans still rely on the gold old newspaper and 6 o clock news.

#4 these efficiencies are the parties responsibilities. they will take care of it, they arent all tech savvy like us internet folk, give them time.

#5 nothing new here, writting on sidewalks, projectiong on large vertical surfaces? I was hoping for something creative. The downfall of the american protest has nothing to do with lack of resources, people just dont care like they used to. perhaps we are "over-protested"?

#6 again, not eveyone is on the internet. only 110,000 people voted for MoveOn's ad? thats not enough to make a scratch in anything. One 30 second TV commercial hits a few million people at least.
 

Train

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heh, #5 reminds me of the Movie "PCU" where everyone was out protesting,

chanting "We're Not gonna protest! We're Not gonna protest!"
 

maddogchen

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I haven't finished reading the whole thing but I would just like to say I hate the idea of a popular vote instead of electoral. I think the electoral idea is smart because it limits the powers of the big states vs the little states.
 

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Originally posted by: Train

#2, sorta bad idea, going to popular vote instantly makes New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, and other huge population centers, the center of attention. Rural america is left in the Dust.

So are the citizens of NYC, Chicago, LA and other huge population centers less valuable than rural Americans? Every single American vote will count for something if the US switches to a popular vote, including those that are voting conservative in liberal areas and liberal in conservative areas. The electoral college is obsolete and needs to go as it misrepresents the will of the electorate.
 

jjzelinski

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What makes those in rural areas more important than those in non-rural areas? For some reason you advocate diluting the votes of many to benefit a vast minority. Sould that be considered disenfranchisement?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
What makes those in rural areas more important than those in non-rural areas? For some reason you advocate diluting the votes of many to benefit a vast minority. Sould that be considered disenfranchisement?

Well look at the way it is now: Voters in key "battleground" states like New Mexico, Florida, Ohio, West Virginia, New Hampshire, Michigan, Tennessee and Iowa -- and primarily rural states get all of the attention. How many times has Bush or Kerry visited California? Practically none. Yet, we have a huge number of electoral votes and a huge population advantage. How many times has Bush visited PA or Ohio? Dozens. 30+ at least.

Hell, I could vote for Keith Richards and inspire all of my friends and relative to vote likewise and it won't matter one iota. This state will give its electoral votes to Kerry despite what a significant percentage of the state's population wants.

The system as it is now is broken. I want my vote to count.
 

zephyrprime

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#2, sorta bad idea, going to popular vote instantly makes New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, and other huge population centers, the center of attention. Rural america is left in the Dust.
Is that any worse than what we have now where a few swing states are the center of attention and places like california, new york, and texas are ignored? I say it's an improvement even if it's imperfect. Also, rural america is ignored in the current system also. The candidates can't win many votes by going to towns with only 100 people in them and that fact is true whether we have the electoral college or not. They go to a few such towns but the way they reach rural america is though televised coverage of visits to a few small towns rather than actually visiting a lot a small towns. And the small towns that are visited are more often than not the ones in swing states while small towns in other states are ignored.