iTunes problem

agentK

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Hi. I can't install iTunes for some reason. Heres the error:

1607: Unable to install InstallShield Scripting Runtime.

Then the whole thing aborts. I have no other way of viewing my videos.
Any suggestions guys?

Ken
 

agentK

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whats it saying Gurck? I am having a lot of problems with InstallShield. I cant even install software for my HP all-in-one. And i really need my printer and scanner. :(
 

Gurck

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I was being facetious, I (and many, many others) consider quicktime to be malware. If you weren't aware, installing quicktime is a condition of installing itunes - there's no way around it. If you're having problems installing a lot of things, I'd guess windows is the culprit, maybe try a repair install using the CD? Best of luck fixing this, and when you do, I recommend foobar2000 as a music player :)
 

agentK

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Thanks guys! Have been reading the errors in Installshield myself. I recieve errors 1601 and 1607. Trying to remedy them now. Hope they work.

p.s. got quicktime alternative.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
I was being facetious, I (and many, many others) consider quicktime to be malware. If you weren't aware, installing quicktime is a condition of installing itunes - there's no way around it. If you're having problems installing a lot of things, I'd guess windows is the culprit, maybe try a repair install using the CD? Best of luck fixing this, and when you do, I recommend foobar2000 as a music player :)


Please Gurck, enlighten me as to why Quicktime is malware?
 

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Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: Gurck
I was being facetious, I (and many, many others) consider quicktime to be malware. If you weren't aware, installing quicktime is a condition of installing itunes - there's no way around it. If you're having problems installing a lot of things, I'd guess windows is the culprit, maybe try a repair install using the CD? Best of luck fixing this, and when you do, I recommend foobar2000 as a music player :)


Please Gurck, enlighten me as to why Quicktime is malware?

Steve Jobs ran over Guruk's dog.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: Gurck
I was being facetious, I (and many, many others) consider quicktime to be malware. If you weren't aware, installing quicktime is a condition of installing itunes - there's no way around it. If you're having problems installing a lot of things, I'd guess windows is the culprit, maybe try a repair install using the CD? Best of luck fixing this, and when you do, I recommend foobar2000 as a music player :)


Please Gurck, enlighten me as to why Quicktime is malware?

Steve Jobs ran over Guruk's dog.

Jobs was on an iBike, which is all advertising and no substance, so the lil guy was more dazed than actually hurt :p

On a serious note, because it resets file associations when specifically configured to not do so. If it's not malware, why does it ninja-install with itunes? Why is there a specific alternative, as I linked above?
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: Gurck
I was being facetious, I (and many, many others) consider quicktime to be malware. If you weren't aware, installing quicktime is a condition of installing itunes - there's no way around it. If you're having problems installing a lot of things, I'd guess windows is the culprit, maybe try a repair install using the CD? Best of luck fixing this, and when you do, I recommend foobar2000 as a music player :)


Please Gurck, enlighten me as to why Quicktime is malware?

Steve Jobs ran over Guruk's dog.

Jobs was on an iBike, which is all advertising and no substance, so the lil guy was more dazed than actually hurt :p

On a serious note, because it resets file associations when specifically configured to not do so. If it's not malware, why does it ninja-install with itunes? Why is there a specific alternative, as I linked above?

I've never heard of it changing file associations, and have never had a problem with that on any of my system installs. It doesn't Ninja with iTunes, considering it is explicitly mentioned as being an included, necessary install component.

Since when did having an alternative become indicative of the original being malware? There's lite install options for windows, so I suppose Windows is malware? Openoffice exists as an alternative to Office, so Office is malware?

Your anti-Apple bias is laughable at times.
 

Gurck

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This really goes beyond the scope of the thread, so rather than hijack it I'll just remind you that I'm far from alone in my feelings on QT, and itunes is the only music playing software which "requires" it, odd, don't you think?
 

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Originally posted by: agentK
Got them! Had to manually Register msiexec! Thanks again! :)

the same thing just happened to my husband. i'm not sure why that happened, but i'm glad it worked out. :)
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
This really goes beyond the scope of the thread, so rather than hijack it I'll just remind you that I'm far from alone in my feelings on QT, and itunes is the only music playing software which "requires" it, odd, don't you think?

As far as I know, iTunes runs on the quicktime audio engine, hence the requirement. I wouldn't say it's odd at all. You've given absolutely no proof of how quicktime could be considered malware. Frankly Gurck, put up or shut up, as I and many others on these forums are sick of hearing your baseless claims about all things Apple.
 

Gurck

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I did "put up"; it both resets file associations and installs without consent. Now take your own advice...
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
I did "put up"; it both resets file associations and installs without consent. Now take your own advice...

Show me proof of how it resets file associations on any sort of repeatable basis (e.g the program is doing it and not some windows flaw), as I've NEVER heard of that except from you. I've always dechecked all of the boxes and never had a problem on every quicktime install I've ever done.

It does not install without consent. You agree to install it as part of iTunes. It is made plainly clear to the user before they can install as quicktime is part of the itunes executable.
Look here and read the Windows requirements. What part of that is hard to understand? Are your blinders that dense?

Gurck, I'll again suggest you take my advice and put up or shut up. Your bias is quickly moving from hilarious to downright annoying.
 

Gurck

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iIt's one of those things people click on without reading it. It's also one of those things that, along with Weatherbug and MMJB, I without fail find when a friend or family member with a spyware problem calls me for help. No reason to be so upset, iIf you can't discuss something rationally & with tolerance for opinions which differ from your own, you should take part 2 of your own advice.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
iIt's one of those things people click on without reading it. It's also one of those things that, along with Weatherbug and MMJB, I without fail find when a friend or family member with a spyware problem calls me for help.

Considering that quicktime is listed as a requirement to run iTunes a whole 5 or so clearly listed lines below the download button, I'd say that the user has been given adequate warning. Calling quicktime spyware is some hilarious BS, as I'm sure others will agree.

Gurck, I've proved you wrong. Quicktime is not malware and it does not install without users permission. You are wrong, but you'll never admit that as it will be a huge dent in your anti-Apple fascade. The fact that you will not admit it doesn't change the fact that you are indeed wrong. It's OK, as we are all wrong at points.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Calling quicktime spyware is some hilarious BS, as I'm sure others will agree.
Agreed. Who called it spyware? :confused:
Gurck, I've proved you wrong. Quicktime is not malware and it does not install without users permission. You are wrong, but you'll never admit that as it will be a huge dent in your anti-Apple fascade. The fact that you will not admit it doesn't change the fact that you are indeed wrong. It's OK, as we are all wrong at points.
You haven't proven anything.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Calling quicktime spyware is some hilarious BS, as I'm sure others will agree.
Agreed. Who called it spyware? :confused:
Gurck, I've proved you wrong. Quicktime is not malware and it does not install without users permission. You are wrong, but you'll never admit that as it will be a huge dent in your anti-Apple fascade. The fact that you will not admit it doesn't change the fact that you are indeed wrong. It's OK, as we are all wrong at points.
You haven't proven anything.

You can attempt to play linguistic games all you want, but it doesn't change the intent of your post when you said that you inevitably find quicktime on systems that you have been called in to check out for spyware. In that sentence you connected quicktime with spyware. It was clearly your intent, and at that point you expressly threw out any air of objectivity you had a claim on.

And my Apple link with the download requirements of iTunes was clear, irrefutable proof that iTunes doesn't install without users agreeing to the term that quicktime comes along with it.

Gurck, YOU ARE WRONG.
 

Gurck

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iThe intent of that post was to remark on the correlation between quicktime and people who are unknowledgeable enough to get spyware. I'm not a woman, if I mean something I'll say it - such as when I explicitly called QT malware. I don't need some Apple fanboy / conspiracy theorist telling me what I mean when I'm fully aware of what I mean - thanks for the offer though. FWIW MMJB isn't spyware either.

Your link proves nothing; studies have shown that well over 99% of people click "OK", "Accept", "Download", etc. without reading what they're agreeing to. This trait is why EULAs don't stand up in court.

Looks like one of us is wrong, and it's not me :)
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Gurck
iThe intent of that post was to remark on the correlation between quicktime and people who are unknowledgeable enough to get spyware. I'm not a woman, if I mean something I'll say it - such as when I explicitly called QT malware. I don't need some Apple fanboy / conspiracy theorist telling me what I mean when I'm fully aware of what I mean - thanks for the offer though. FWIW MMJB isn't spyware either.

Your link proves nothing; studies have shown that well over 99% of people click "OK", "Accept", "Download", etc. without reading what they're agreeing to. This trait is why EULAs don't stand up in court.

Looks like one of us is wrong, and it's not me :)

Ah, but you stated that it installs without user consent, but clearly they are giving their consent not only by agreeing to the download requirements (which are not an EULA by the way), but also by picking and choosing a location to install quicktime in when the need arises. There is no foul play involved, no matter what you'd like to believe.

And your attempt at associating quicktime with spyware still was just that. You can try to dig your way out of that comment all you want, but I'm sure the other members of the forum see it for exactly what it is: a comment that is patently false designed to denigrate a company by a poster who has repeatedly shown the inability to objectively look at Apple related software and hardware.

You are still wrong Gurck, but it is quite entertaining watching you dig yourself in. I'm heading to bed for the night, as I think I've done my job here.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Ah, but you stated that it installs without user consent, but clearly they are giving their consent not only by agreeing to the download requirements (which are not an EULA by the way), but also by picking and choosing a location to install quicktime in when the need arises. There is no foul play involved, no matter what you'd like to believe.
A BS excuse, and the courts would agree if it went to them. You're really going out of your way to argue, are you perchance up past bedtime?
And your attempt at associating quicktime with spyware still was just that. You can try to dig your way out of that comment all you want, but I'm sure the other members of the forum see it for exactly what it is: a comment that is patently false designed to denigrate a company by a poster who has repeatedly shown the inability to objectively look at Apple related software and hardware.
Forum members capable of reading will see it for exactly what it was. You too will learn these reading skills at some point. Stay in school.
You are still wrong Gurck, but it is quite entertaining watching you dig yourself in. I'm heading to bed for the night, as I think I've done my job here.
I see I was right about bedtime ;)

As an aside, who pays you to be stupid? Or is it some kind of volunteer job? :confused:
 

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Looks like you've resorted to "you're a kid", "you can't read" and "you're stupid" there, gurck.

Go on, post how only people without a valid argument resort to insults... I dare you... I double dare you ;)

Also, I don't know where you get off claiming Foobar isn't ugly with that picture. It's a joke. Seriously. You ever done any development? Can't you tell those are bog-standard buttons which date back to 3.1? Well done for adding a little bit of blue to the table, and also turning your title bar green, but this doesn't even come close to being remotely attractive nor stylish. I suggest you read up on interface design.
I contend that you have little (read: NO) eye for design. For this reason you cannot appreciate devices/software that have superior design thus negating many of your so-called arguments.
I digress.

OP: Sounds like a windows issue. I assume you've tried a complete uninstallation/reinstallation? You might even want to go for a repair installation as my harlequin
-iconed friend already suggested. You could also try installing to a different location, although this is a bit of a hack.