iTunes 10.5 for iCloud and iOS available

[MotionMan]

http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/11/itunes-10-5-out-download/

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

I have a desktop Mac (Mini) that I sync all of our current iDevices (5 of them) with. I have a laptop, as does my wife, and another Mini for the kids. Everything is on the same Apple ID.

With wireless sync (and iCloud), will I still be syncing everything to my Mini ONLY or will all the iDevices sync with all the computers on our network? (I guess it matters little as all the computers (and iDevices) will be able to pull everything from iCloud, but I am curious if the iDevices will be synced to only one computer or all of them?)

MotionMan

 

[Ns1]

i would hope that iCloud would sync every device related to that account, in a manner similar to iTunes home sharing?

 

[MotionMan]

i would hope that iCloud would sync every device related to that account, in a manner similar to iTunes home sharing?

Right, but, right now, you can only sync your iDevice to one computer. With wireless syncing, will the iDevices consider themselves synced to all the computers, or still just to one?

Or maybe, none - that may be the answer. Maybe once you set things up for wireless syncing, the iDevices will simply consider themselves synced to the Apple ID, be it on a network or iCloud?

I am just trying to wrap my head around how this all will work.

MotionMan

 

[Ns1]

Right, but, right now, you can only sync your iDevice to one computer. With wireless syncing, will the iDevices consider themselves synced to all the computers, or still just to one?

Or maybe, none - that may be the answer. Maybe once you set things up for wireless syncing, the iDevices will simply consider themselves synced to the Apple ID, be it on a network or iCloud?

I am just trying to wrap my head around how this all will work.

MotionMan

the bold is how i imagine it to work; you are no longer syncing to the mac mini, the mac mini would now sync to iCloud/your apple ID.

of course, I don't know any of this, just speculation on my part

I'm curious as to how iCloud/Apple is going to handle 2 apple ID's on 1 computer. eg me + the GF share a primary computer but have separate iDevices

 

[PricklyPete]

Right, but, right now, you can only sync your iDevice to one computer. With wireless syncing, will the iDevices consider themselves synced to all the computers, or still just to one?

Or maybe, none - that may be the answer. Maybe once you set things up for wireless syncing, the iDevices will simply consider themselves synced to the Apple ID, be it on a network or iCloud?

I am just trying to wrap my head around how this all will work.

MotionMan

I am interested as well.

 

[MotionMan]

the bold is how i imagine it to work; you are no longer syncing to the mac mini, the mac mini would now sync to iCloud/your apple ID

I wonder if, after this is all set up, the iTunes folder of the four computers will be identical?

MotionMan

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Theres the syncing done with the wifi sync which is synced between your iOS device and the computer you used to sync with. And then there's icloud syncing which probably needs to be set up on each computer you want to sync with.

 

[MotionMan]

Theres the syncing done with the wifi sync which is synced between your iOS device and the computer you used to sync with. And then there's icloud syncing which probably needs to be set up on each computer you want to sync with.

So the iDevices will still be tied to a computer? I though one of the benefits of iOS 5 was that you did not need a computer?

And the iDevices will independently sync with iCloud, too, right?

I better back everything up before I try any of this

MotionMan

 

[Ns1]

nm, i know nothing.

 

[eelw]

Ah crap. Since iCloud started to work this morning, I decided to create my me.com account. That worked fine. Changed my Apple ID to that as primary email. But for some reason, now it's changed the domain to me.ca. Get message Account Not Verified. But I need to log into my me.ca account for instructions. Guess have to wait for it officially to go live to get this resolved

Edit, had to revert back to my former Apple ID. Stupid .com/.ca domain difference.

 

[Kev]

I'm still not clear on this. When you back up your apps or music does it count against your free 5gb? If so, fail.

 

[MotionMan]

I'm still not clear on this. When you back up your apps or music does it count against your free 5gb? If so, fail.

Apps and Music bought from Apple do not count.

MotionMan

 

[Ns1]

I'm still not clear on this. When you back up your apps or music does it count against your free 5gb? If so, fail.

For starters, you get 5GB of storage for free, which doesn’t count your apps, music, books, TV content, or Photo Stream images. You can upgrade that storage for a nominal fee (starting at $20 a year for a total of 15GB, up to $100 annually for 55GB of cloud storage). Secondly, the way iCloud handles your photos is that it will keep 1000 photos in the cloud for up to 30 days. If you go beyond 1000, or past 30 days, you start to lose your content unless you move it to a device (say your laptop) or to a folder in your Camera Roll. If that sounds confusing — that’s because it is. Also, there’s no way to view your photos or share them online at this point.

txt

 

[MotionMan]

Does iCloud require Lion? I have previously seen rumors otherwise, but no confirmation.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

Does iCloud require Lion? I have previously seen rumors otherwise, but no confirmation.

MotionMan

 

[manly]

Does iCloud require Lion? I have previously seen rumors otherwise, but no confirmation.

MotionMan

the literature sounds like it requires Lion or iOS5 (to actually do anything).

I'm actually curious because I'll have neither client OS in the foreseeable future, but I would like to migrate my expired MobileMe account over.

 

[MotionMan]

the literature sounds like it requires Lion or iOS5 (to actually do anything).

I'm actually curious because I'll have neither client OS in the foreseeable future, but I would like to migrate my expired MobileMe account over.

I will have iOS5 shortly, but I have been putting off loading Lion on my 4 computers.

I would guess that the iDevices with iOS5 would work with iCloud fine, but not the pre-Lion Macs.

MotionMan

 

[manly]

I will have iOS5 shortly, but I have been putting off loading Lion on my 4 computers.

I would guess that the iDevices with iOS5 would work with iCloud fine, but not the pre-Lion Macs.

MotionMan

I was a bit unclear in answering; Apple's literature states you need Lion, iOS5 or Windows Vista SP2/7 to use iCloud.

This document covers some of our questions:
Apple IDs and iCloud

 

[Aikouka]

Is anyone else having a lot of issues with iTunes simply being annoying in regard to trying to connect to devices? I think I may end up turning WiFi Sync off until they fix this terrible mess, because I'm tired of it constantly popping up into the foreground to tell me that it cannot connect to a device (WiFi isn't on since the device isn't plugged in). It also has a bad tendency to freeze up when the device isn't active.

Not to mention it just loves to open up randomly after 1-5 minutes from when I closed it. I even made sure to turn off "Open iTunes when this device is connected" on any device that had it turned on.

EDIT:

UGH! Now iTunes wants me to restore my phone because some other iPhone has been sync'd to my PC.

EDIT 2:

This is how you fix it -- http://itsmichaelw.com/tutorials/th...-synced-with-an-iphone-or-another-ios-device/