It's time to BAN HID's, or make some new laws

SVT Cobra

Lifer
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Well my hate for crappy HID's the aftermarket ones that are blue and never aligned properly has just grown to include factory installed ones on Lexus's Mercedes's, BMW's, etc. Not only is it a myth you see better with that bright of a lamp (look at graph of temp. of gas versus light spectrum emitted and you will see many of these lamps with huge K temps are past the ideal range), they kill night vision of other drivers. I am not here to rant about people driving with them, but ffs people YOU DO ruin night vision with them, and I am 28, imagine those over 40 or 50. And, all those auto leveling devices do not work. I drive on a lot of back roads that are bump and twisting and the leveling devices either do not just plain work, or they are not fast enough.

Why am I once again ranting about HIDs? Last night I got driven off the road by a moron in a BMW with them installed coming in the opposite direction. It was very foggy, so I was driving ten under the speed limit as it was very neccesary even though I knew the roads well, and this jackass comes along with HID fog lights, regular beams on, not high beams (and why is it that their fog lights are always on??!?!??! ffs, fog lights may look cool but they do not need to be on all the time), and I could not see a thing. They had a blusih tinge to them and as they were coming off of the crest of a hill I was suddenly blinded and could not see a thing except white fog and those blinding lights left spots in my eyes...I kept the car straight, but unlucky for me the road turned slightly and when I could see again I was inches from hitting trees on the side of the road. Luckily I slowed down a lot also.

Also this was in my Volvo. You can use those auto leveling devices as an arguement all you want, but when you are in a low riding car (I was not mind you) and they are on an SUV the lights simply shine right into your windsheild and eyes.

 

xanis

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I'm with you on this one. I do a lot of driving on back roads in my rural town and I almost ALWAYS get blinded by some rich asshole driving his or her import with crappy, annoying, and/or improperly-aligned HIDs.

 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: sicko
People like you needs to be banned from driving at night.

Um no I see fine at night, and acutally you are not supposed to have even your regular lamps on in heavy fog, only fog lights if it is possible so you can see better and you do not blind other drivers. But either way I still would have at least been able to see if they were regular lamps, and not the bluish ones that are WORSE for seeing.


Sorry but next time you should know what you are talking about before you speak.
 

her209

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Also I motion to ban lifted trucks such that they blind the driver in front of them.
 

Kelvrick

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Sounds more like a rant to crappy drivers then HID's. Its like blaming guns for shootings. Its people.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: sicko
People who live in urban areas and feel like they need HID's need to be banned from driving at night.


fixed.

HID's are super annoying, and it seems like only a small fraction of the people who have them actually bothered to adjust the angle correctly (I'm looking at you, Mr. Drives a Hummer with Quad HID's Aimed Directly at My Face)
 

mugs

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You know, people always say that good, factory HIDs won't blind other drivers. But I don't think people would flash their high beams at my wife all the time if her lights didn't bother them.
 

Zenmervolt

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I've never, not once, had a problem with factory HID lights. Chances are that it was someone with an older non-HID BMW who put an aftermarket set in.

As for vision, the output of true HID lights is slightly greater in terms of lumens. Color temp has nothing to do with it; they simply put out more lumens. Period. They also manage that at 30-35 watts as opposed to the 55-60 watts of halogen bulbs and manage to last many times longer than traditional halogen bulbs. Properly aligned, they do NOT damage anyone's night vision.

(DISCLAIMER: I do not own a car that has HID lights.)

ZV
 

Mojoed

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
And, all those auto leveling devices do not work.

They do work. I think the real problem is the vast majority of cars out there do not have auto/manual leveling devices installed. Yes, these cars suck, I agree.

According to my cop buddy, enforcing headlamp laws is not something police even want to be bothered with. That's the real issue.
 

DivideBYZero

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My auto leveling works. It rechecks itself everytime I start the car. You can see the lights rise then fall into the correct level.

But yeah, HIDs suck because you have yet to get glasses for driving...
 

herm0016

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factory hids are ok. after market ones suck. people that drive with there fog lights on all the time suck too. they are usually not aimed right and are blinding to us driving cars.
 

SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: isekii
He probably has bad eye vision and is blaming HIDs.

This is where my vote lies.

My vision is fine, and it it was not I would not be allowed to keep my job, as we are tested every 6 months.