It's time for you libs to apologize for calling Pres Bush a liar

[Riprorin]

Distorted Times?
Tuesday, June 29, 2004
By Brit Hume

The latest from the Political Grapevine:

Negotiations With Niger?
Democrats have called President Bush a ? "liar" for saying last year that, according to the British government, Saddam Hussein (search) was seeking to buy uranium from Africa. But senior European intelligence officers now say that the African country of Niger did, in fact, negotiate with Iraq to sell Saddam's former regime refined uranium.

One unnamed official, quoted by the Financial Times, says potential buyers from Iraq met with officials from Niger in Europe at least three years before the U.S. invaded Iraq. The senior European intelligence officials say an intelligence operation in Europe and Africa indicated that Niger had been in similar negotiations with Iran, Libya, China and North Korea. However, it's unclear how far any of the negotiations ever progressed.

The New York Times' ombudsman, public editor Daniel Okrent, says his paper's headline a week and a half ago saying "9/11 Panel Finds No Qaeda-Iraq Tie" was a ? "distortion" and a ? "misstep." As we noted at the time, the 9/11 Commission said there were links, though no evidence of any Iraqi involvement in Al Qaeda attacks on this country.

And so, Okrent says, ? "good reporting and careful presentation are ... needed" at the Times. But, Okrent insists, the distortion was not intentional.

 

[Spamela]

give it up, this is getting pathetic.

 

[GrGr]

We should apologize for calling Pres Bush a liar based on gossip from "senior European Intelligence officers" (most likely officers from MI6 - of "45 minute" fame)? Where's the EVIDENCE? Have they found another essay to copy?

This is not even grasping at straws this is beyond pathetic.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

pathetic

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Spamela
give it up, this is getting pathetic.

I agree. Continuing to call Pres Bush a liar is getting really old.

 

[dbk]

But still, no Iraqi Al-Qaeda connection

 

[ReiAyanami]

iran and NK have active nuclear programs. why not bomb and peacefully invade them

oh wait they dont have their own "world's 2nd largest oil reserve".

 

[NeoV]

The FACT of the matter is that the intelligence reports used by THIS ADMINISTRATION were said to be, by our own intelligence agencies, crap.

 

[conjur]

LMAO!!



That's why Joseph Wilson WENT to Niger! He was asked to go to check on that possible purchase attempt.

Guess what he found? Nothing!

Guess what he got for it? Some fvckwad neocon in the Bush administration unveiling his wife's name to the press (Novak).

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Spamela
give it up, this is getting pathetic.

I agree. Continuing to call Pres Bush a liar is getting really old.

Then Bush should stop lying! That would fix the problem!

 

[FelixDeCat]

Seriously though,

Bush has never lied. Ever.


You want lies? How about Al "no controlling legal authority [can punish me] for accepting [illegal campaign contributions]" Or maybe Mr. Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton.

And those of you who are delusional to think otherwise will have another four years to snap out of it and recognize the greatness of our most wise and munificent leader, the honorable President George W. Bush!

Three cheers for Bush!

Four more years!

W in 04!

 

[conjur]

Bush never lied, eh?

On May 1, 2003, aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, beneath the "Mission Accomplished" banner, he declared, "We have removed an ally of al-Qaeda and cut off a source of terrorist funding."

<ahem>

BIG lie right there!!

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: conjur
Bush never lied, eh?

On May 1, 2003, aboard the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln, beneath the "Mission Accomplished" banner, he declared, "We have removed an ally of al-Qaeda and cut off a source of terrorist funding."

<ahem>

BIG lie right there!!

Why dont you think Saddam (or anyone in his regime) wasnt an ally of al-Queda? When we removed Saddam we removed everyone working for him including those that have been proven to meet (in Germany) with those involved in the September 11th attacks.

Lie? I think not.

 

[conjur]

Because there was NO COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP between Saddam and Al Qaeda. The only documentation of any link are attempts at contact that went nowhere.

They were NOT allies!

bin Laden HATED Saddam.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: conjur
Because there was NO COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP between Saddam and Al Qaeda. The only documentation of any link are attempts at contact that went nowhere.

They were NOT allies!

bin Laden HATED Saddam.

Thats right. We removed the previous government of Iraq and all the operatives of Hussien last year. They will be unable to cooperate /ally themselves with Al Queda no longer.

Mission Accomplished!

 

[sandorski]

:roll:

 

[Gaard]

I'll apologize as soon as you admit you called FOX News centrist.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: NeoV
The FACT of the matter is that the intelligence reports used by THIS ADMINISTRATION were said to be, by our own intelligence agencies, crap.

:thumbsup: How easily we forget!

 

[Moonbeam]

Bush isn't just a liar, he's a cheat, con artist, con man, deceiver, deluder, dissimulator, equivocator, fabler, fabricator, fabulist, false witness, falsifier, fibber, jive turkey, maligner, misleader, perjurer, phony, prevaricator, promoter, storyteller, trickster, bastard, beggar, black sheep, blackguard, bully, bum, cad, cardsharp, charlatan, cheat, delinquent, devil, disgrace, felon, fraud, good-for-nothing, grafter, hooligan, hypocrite, idler, imp, knave, liar, loafer, miscreant, mountebank, ne'er-do-well, opportunist, pretender, prodigal, profligate, rake, rapscallion, recreant, reprobate, robber, rogue, rowdy, ruffian, scalawag, scamp, scoundrel, shyster, sinner, skunk, sneak, swindler, tough, tramp, trickster, varmint, villain, wastrel, and wretch, especially a wretch.

And if you can't see that you are blind, sightless, dark, eyeless, groping, in darkness, purblind, undiscerning, unseeing, unsighted, visionless, indifferent, careless, heedless, ignorant, imperceptive, inattentive, inconsiderate, indiscriminate, injudicious, insensitive, myopic, nearsighted, neglectful, oblivious, thoughtless, unaware, unconscious, undiscerning, unmindful, unobservant, unreasoning, unseeing, heedless, impetuous, inconsiderate, irrational, mindless, rash, reckless, senseless, shortsighted, thoughtless, unseeing, unthinking, especially unthinking.

 

[A5]

The Saddam-era Iraq was probably one of the more secular Arab regimes (at least to compared to our Saudi "allies" or Iran). Not exactly conductive for relations with religous extremists. Not to mention that Saddam would have gained nothing from an alliance with Al-Qaeda, or at least not nearly as much as A-Q would...

 

[sMiLeYz]

Give it up, G W lied. The horse is dead no matter how many times you beat it.

CIA debunks Niger claim

CIA > Brit Hume

kthx

 

[etech]

sMiLeYz, your story, (Filed: 07/07/2003) is a year old. It appears that there may be new information. We'll have to wait to see how it pans out.

Iraq Had Talks on Buying Uranium for Nukes -FT
Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:12 PM ET

"LONDON (Reuters) - Iraq was among several countries in negotiations to buy supplies of illicit uranium from Niger at least three years before the U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein, the Financial Times reported Monday.

Intelligence officers learned between 1999 and 2001 that smugglers planned to sell illicitly mined uranium from the West African country to several states, including Iraq, the newspaper reported, citing senior European intelligence sources.

Although the European intelligence material suggested a proactive role by the sellers, intelligence officials said that Iraq actively sought supplies, the FT said.

In the run-up to the war against Iraqi, President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair both accused Saddam of trying to buy uranium from Niger as part of a program to build nuclear weapons.

But their assertions were widely dismissed after the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the U.N. nuclear watchdog, said documents meant to support the claims were clearly forged.

Although the United States later retracted the accusation, Britain stuck to its guns and continued to declare it had additional evidence not seen by the IAEA. The accusation formed part of Britain's September 2002 dossier on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction which Blair used to justify going to war.

The FT said the smugglers planned to sell uranium mined illicitly in Niger to Iran, Libya, China and North Korea. ....."

 

[tallest1]

I must've missed the memo that read that european reporters have more cred than official US reports.

 

[Red Dawn]

The lie was that Iraq had an Advanced Nuclear Weapons Program not that they were trying to procur Uranium.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: conjur
Because there was NO COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP between Saddam and Al Qaeda. The only documentation of any link are attempts at contact that went nowhere.

They were NOT allies!

bin Laden HATED Saddam.

Thats right. We removed the previous government of Iraq and all the operatives of Hussien last year. They will be unable to cooperate /ally themselves with Al Queda no longer.

Mission Accomplished!

HA HA lets blow up the world and kill everyone, that way we are sure that Bin Laden cant ally himself with anyone, or does that not make sense?