It's time for the "Late Night Interesting Discussion"

MacBaine

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Welcome to late night Interesting Discussion. I'm your host MacBaine. ICE to see you.
Tonight's interesting discussion with be that of drawing a parallel between nature and computers. In this discussion, let's point out many interesting things which exist, perhaps in different forms, in both nature and computers.
To start, I would point out the issue of viruses.
What is a virus in nature? It is an organism which infects a host, uses the host's cells to reproduce and spread, in turn infecting other hosts which it comes in contact with. A computer virus is very much the same. It infects a host computer, sometimes destroys files, and often reproduces and infects other computers via email or local computer networks.
Why do viruses exist in nature? They control population by killing the weakest members of a society, or sometimes the unfortunate. Generally the old, disabled, or some other way weak animals are hit hardest by a virus, while the strong may have better resistance.
Why do viruses exist in computers? They control population by infecting (and sometimes destroying the computer of) the most ignorant or uninformed users. Generally those who are not very knowledgable in computers or the internet are hit the most by viruses, as they are not bright enough to listen to the rest of us. The more knowledgable users are more resistant to infection.
How are viruses controlled in nature? Through medicine and medical advancements, humans at least have been able to reduce infection and increase resistance to viruses.
How are viruses controlled in computers? Through the use of Anti-virus tools, which function in much the same capacity as medical technology does in nature.
How do viruses evolve in nature? They mutate to become more resistant to our efforts to resist them. They adapt and force us to improve medical techology constantly.
How do viruses evolve in computers? They "mutate" to become more resistant to Anti-virus tools. Each new generation finds a new method by which to damage a host. This forces us to develop new countermeasures constantly.

So there is the initial topic. Feel free to expand upon it or raise new points. Thanks for tuning in and stay here for more Late Night Interesting Discussion.
 

Ulfwald

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Dude!!!

That is just WAY too deep for me on a Saturday night. You need to get a life. ;)
 

her209

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Worms

World Wide Web

Spiders

Bugs

Branches

Trees

Mouse/Mice

Apples

other interesting computer terms ;)

finger
touch
joystick
spreadsheet

 

SWScorch

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Okay... so what do you want us to discuss? The possible ethical and moral ramifications of weeding out computer viruses, or the failure to do so? Or shall we speculate on the roles of programmers who create such viruses? Are they, in fact, playing god? Are they creating a living, adapting organism, one that will spiral wildly out of anyone's control, including their's? Should viruses be extrminated or simply "dealt with?" And should we ackowledge the fact that users who leave their systems open to infection should be removed from the technological "gene pool" for their incompetence and ineptitude?
 

wnied

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Computer Viruses are manmade, and Organic Viruses are begun in Nature.

Does this mean we are Mother Nature?

My head hurts, I think I need a twinkie.

Fugeddaboutit, I'm goin to bed.
~wnied~


 

MacBaine

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<< Computer Viruses are manmade, and Organic Viruses are begun in Nature. >>



But depending on how you view things, humans are part of nature. Thus, by creating these viruses, we are essentially playing god.

Try this one... life started as micro-organisms, which eventually evolved into today's humans. Thus, one can see viruses as the micro-organisms of our "Man Made Nature", and that eventually they will evolve (so to speak) into our organisms with the same mental capabilities as humans (AI). The way things are going, this isn't too far off. Computers are essentially a "Man Made Nature", and since Humans are part of nature, computers can be expected to have similar characteristics of our Nature. What I pointed out with viruses is supportive of this. I do think that the evolution of AI will occur similar to the evolution of humans, except at a much faster rate.