It's the Democrats' fault we're losing the war in Iraq! -Bush

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trenchfoot

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dems: " you bumbling idiots...you're the ones that got us into this mess in the first place, and now all you have to say about it is to "stay the course. what kind of a hell of plan is that? you never had a plan that extended beyond the iraqis adoringly greeting us as their infidel saviors."

repubs: "well, we consider your plan to be the "no plan at all" plan, therefore it doesn't exist. so our newly coined "infinitely flexible stay the course" plan trumps your "no-plan" any day. that plan says that the "stay the course" plan can mean anything we say it means whenever we feel it needs to be "flexed" into an alternative interpretation for political advantage ."

dems: "huh?...wha? didn't you guys just infer not a week ago that your "stay the course" plan now incorporates getting our troops out on some kind of timetable? you know, the kind of timetable we've been hollering for for years?"

repubs: "well, you may have thought of it first, but that's not how we're interpreting it. our exit strategy is different, because we're not cutting and running like you guys would. we're going to get out of there with our heads held high and walk out of there with our honor and prestige intact. and besides, that was the plan all along."

dems: "well, isn't it a little awkward that your "flexible plan" is starting to look more and more like our "no-plan" plan?"we like the plan we got much better because it's our plan, even though we can't seem to agree on what the plan really is yet. but if we get back control of congress, you bet your sweet bippie we'll have a plan that'll make your plan look like dubyuh thought the whole thing up."

repubs: *yawn* "yeah, so what? hey rove....rove!!!...get in here and start spinning this plan of ours again. it needs another tune up."

in the meantime, more and more of our troops are dying to buy the neocons more time to think of a way out of the mess they got us into without losing control of our government.

 

Jhhnn

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"yes because that will make it all just go away, right? We'll just pretend that everything is just A-OK when Iran swoops down and installs a fundamentalist Shia-dominated puppet government that threatens the stability of the entire globe...? "

Lovely bit of scaremongering. So, uhh, who made that even a possibility? The Bush Admin? You bet. And I'm sure it was part of their alleged "Plan"- you know, just putting a different spin on failure...

The Bushies punched the tarbaby, and now claim that the opposition doesn't have a plan to get unstuck, as if they had one when they did the deed, or even now...

Exit strategy? They don't need or want no steenking exit strategy- they're making too much money off it all to quit now...
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Craig234
To be fair, I don't see where Bush said it's democrats fault how Iraq is going. I see where he's saying they lack a plan if they win.

And in fact, democrats are divided on what to do in Iraq. My congressman estimates there might be 70 in the house who, like him, favor immediate withdrawal; others don't.
I agree with Craig. Nice to see we can agree on something. The thread title is very misleading.
What is this crap.

It's not "The Democrats War" .

This is "The War Presidents War" and now he's trying to pawn it off on Democrats.

Sonabitch and to those that spout this crap along with the chimp you are as Un-American as they come.
Gee Dave you just called Craig, one of the most liberal posters on P&N, Un-American. Nicely done.
And you go around calling the Republican facists, take a look in the mirror after a statement like that.

 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
3. I hope the Democrats' plan is to withdraw immediately and admit our mistake and move on.
yes because that will make it all just go away, right? We'll just pretend that everything is just A-OK when Iran swoops down and installs a fundamentalist Shia-dominated puppet government that threatens the stability of the entire globe...?

swell.

bah... i wouldnt hold your breath bud. We're going to be there for a while regardless of who wins any election.

Well, Iran is a leading nation in the world for agression, and therefore a menace to world stability.

Remember how they invaded Iraq in the 1980's? Oh ya, oops, that was Iraq invading them with our encouragement. And Iraq using WMD. Some of which the US gave him.

Well, remember how Iran was going around overthrowing democracies to install dictatorships? Oh ya, oops, that's what the US did to them in 1953, leading to today.

Well, remember how Iran invaded a country on the other side of the world, Viet Nam, and killed millions of them for mistaken reasons?

Oh, nevermind. Iran has good reason to fear for its own security - from us.

Sure, they're a corrupt, repressive theocracy and mafia-like government. They'd never have been elected, if their nation didn't have its democracy overthrown in 1953. By us.

But Iran destabilizing the world? Iraq doesn't allow them to do that, and there's no indication it would do that, more than is already pretty much the case.

We've already removed Iran's arch enemy and put the Shiites in power in Iraq, and they're already getting along very nicely, Iraq promising the US cannot use any Iraqi territory for any aggression against Iran, for example, and there's plenty more cooperation on the way already, with or without a withdrawal.

Had our president actually known about the Shiites and the Sunnis during the war decision period, maybe it'd have given him an idea what would happen from his policy.