It's really tough to get a high school diploma in Texas

[DominionSeraph]

They need to tell the k-12 teachers to stop using mnemonics to teach mathematics, it is the dumbest way for a kid to learn math. Math is all about concepts.. its not like history where you can memorize everything.

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But it's all mnemonics and little compartmentalized systems used to compensate for the fact that we're not omniscient. It's all kind of a kludge.

 

[heavyiron8]

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But it's all mnemonics and little compartmentalized systems used to compensate for the fact that we're not omniscient. It's all kind of a kludge.

Lol, it is far from "all mnemonics". Kids these days struggle with precalc and calculus not because they're hard, but because they never learned the proper tools they needed. Mnemonics in math will only carry you so far, at some point in algebra, you actually need to understand why you move the decimal place left or right.

 

[ShawnD1]

They need to tell the k-12 teachers to stop using mnemonics to teach mathematics, it is the dumbest way for a kid to learn math. Math is all about concepts.. its not like history where you can memorize everything.

My gf got through school that way. Get through math and physics by memorizing things and matching formulas. She had straight A's so nobody suspected she might have a learning disorder (ADD). She didn't actually learn anything.

IMO, the majority of the population is ADD. It seems like most people didn't learn shit at any point. This is why we have parents who are afraid of radio waves and microwaves even though that was explained in high school (planck energy). Most people also don't seem to understand what the word "radiation" means (that big yellow thing in the sky is emitting radiation). Then there are people who don't know what the word "nuclear" means even though that was taught since the 1960s. MRI machines were originally called NMRI (nuclear-MRI) but the N was dropped because high school dropouts were afraid of it. They should have kept the N, then people who are retarded would refuse to be tested and they would die quicker.

 

[heavyiron8]

My gf got through school that way. Get through math and physics by memorizing things and matching formulas. She had straight A's so nobody suspected she might have a learning disorder (ADD). She didn't actually learn anything.

IMO, the majority of the population is ADD. It seems like most people didn't learn shit at any point. This is why we have parents who are afraid of radio waves and microwaves even though that was explained in high school (planck energy). Most people also don't seem to understand what the word "radiation" means (that big yellow thing in the sky is emitting radiation). Then there are people who don't know what the word "nuclear" means even though that was taught since the 1960s. MRI machines were originally called NMRI (nuclear-MRI) but the N was dropped because high school dropouts were afraid of it. They should have kept the N, then people who are retarded would refuse to be tested and they would die quicker.

This is exactly what's wrong with our K-12. Majority never had any discipline, therefore actually never learned shit.

 

[Jeff7]

Wow good job cherry picking... or maybe you're just narrow minded?...

Subtle sarcasm fail.

I remember at some point, I was stunned when he told me .05 x 1000 = .00005 and not 50. I thought he was trolling me till I saw he was actually serious.

50% of Silicon Valley is foreign born,

So that's what, like, 0.00005x of the population then, right? That's not too bad.

:hmm:

 

[waggy]

what i find funny? Commcollege is a Junior member..


And commcollege is now banned as a spammer, a spammer who necroed this thread. -DrPizza

 

[corwin]

what i find funny? Commcollege is a Junior member..

What I find funny is it looks like you did the necro instead of the spammer

 

[OutHouse]

Lol, it is far from "all mnemonics". Kids these days struggle with precalc and calculus not because they're hard, but because they never learned the proper tools they needed. Mnemonics in math will only carry you so far, at some point in algebra, you actually need to understand why you move the decimal place left or right.

i graduated in 87 and back then mostly everybody struggled with calc. that is nothing new dude.

The only time i have done that algebra decimal thing is in math class. Not all of us have any desire to be electrical,electronic,civil and mechanical engineering as well as physics, chemical and aeronautical engineers, so i personally cared just enough to pass the class and move on to bigger and better things that i am interested in.

 

[OutHouse]

I'm not talking about AP exams. I'm talking about AP classes. You go to high school, go the AP class. Get college credits.

taking a AP class does not give college credit. you need to take the test or clep it.

AP classes used to be for the really smart kids, now you need to be a complete retard to not be in a AP class.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Western Governors University is an online accredited university

I'm not aware of other online based college programs that are accredited but there are probably others out there.

Be careful. WGU's MBA program was regionally accredited, not by AASCB or whatever it is called. I was seriously considering doing an MBA through them until I found that out.

I will say, WGU does seem to be the most reputable online school by far. I would never go to UoP; it is an overpriced ripoff.

 

[DrPizza]

taking a AP class does not give college credit. you need to take the test or clep it.

AP classes used to be for the really smart kids, now you need to be a complete retard to not be in a AP class.

A lot of high school classes are called "advanced placement" - but he's right - the students take the course and get college credit for the class - WITHOUT taking the AP exam. My students get college credit for calculus through one of the state universities; no AP exam required. In order to teach the class, I more or less had to be "hired" as an adjunct professor. My little rural school with about 80-100 graduating seniors each year offers College Comp, English lit, Calculus, US History I and II, Psychology, Advanced Biology, Fisheries and Wildlife, and a few other courses - all for college credit, no AP exam required.

 

[shortylickens]

taking a AP class does not give college credit. you need to take the test or clep it.

AP classes used to be for the really smart kids, now you need to be a complete retard to not be in a AP class.

I think that depends on where you're at.

 

[Brainonska511]

A lot of high school classes are called "advanced placement" - but he's right - the students take the course and get college credit for the class - WITHOUT taking the AP exam. My students get college credit for calculus through one of the state universities; no AP exam required. In order to teach the class, I more or less had to be "hired" as an adjunct professor. My little rural school with about 80-100 graduating seniors each year offers College Comp, English lit, Calculus, US History I and II, Psychology, Advanced Biology, Fisheries and Wildlife, and a few other courses - all for college credit, no AP exam required.

My HS offered that as well through one of the colleges in NY (I don't remember if it was a state school or a private one). They may grant actual credit compared with an AP (which is more like potential credit), but you may end up going to a school that doesn't accept the transfer credit, though that may be a rare occurrence.

 

[prism]

I took an AP English class in high school and received college credit for it; no special AP exam required.

 

[OutHouse]

I think that depends on where you're at.

yes i should have said in my area. AP classes are just college prep, to get college course credit the student has to take a class offered by the community college that has a agreement with the school district. kids who take those classes get their HS credit along with the semester hours needed for a degree program.

every place is different. some school districts GPA's only go to 4.0 where as some school districts go up to like a 5.0....