It's over

[NTMBK]

In December 2011, the iPhone was at 45nm and PC GPUs were at 28nm.

In December 2014, the iPhone is at 20nm and PC GPUs are at 28nm.

It's time we admitted that we're no longer the leading edge.

 

[imaheadcase]

huh? Did you just compare a cell phone to a PC../rolls eyes

 

[AnandThenMan]

lol love the comparison nice one.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

My PC has 19nm NAND in it. *shrug*

Process / Cost / Yield / Desired Performance / Balance.

The Tao of GPUs.

 

[tential]

Guess I'm getting an iPhone to play ac unity.

 

[wilds]

I for one, love the mobile computing revolution that's taking the market share by storm. Sure, performance is taking a backseaat towards platform power efficiency, but I don't see it as a bad thing at all if we benefit from it.

 

[RussianSensation]

In December 2011, the iPhone was at 45nm and PC GPUs were at 28nm.

In December 2014, the iPhone is at 20nm and PC GPUs are at 28nm.

It's time we admitted that we're no longer the leading edge.

Even on 7nm an IPhone won't beat a 4790K @ 4.8Ghz

 

[krumme]

Even on 7nm an IPhone won't beat a 4790K @ 4.8Ghz

I wouldnt be so sure. We are talking A11. if the hw wasnt oc i think they would be in the same ballpark. A11 on 7nm is perhaps 8 core and the ipc is already pretty impressive. Perhaps faster?...

But anyway 7nm is gazilion years out ...

 

[Grooveriding]

Time to pack it in and start next gen gaming on a shield tablet

 

[AtenRa]

In December 2011, the iPhone was at 45nm and PC GPUs were at 28nm.

In December 2014, the iPhone is at 20nm and PC GPUs are at 28nm.

It's time we admitted that we're no longer the leading edge.

Having Apple do the dirty work(early adopter) could benefit PC as well, lets see how it will go.

 

[Silverforce11]

Even on 7nm an IPhone won't beat a 4790K @ 4.8Ghz

Metal and Nitro-JIT would disagree with you. iOS devices are NO joke when it comes to processing efficiency, or, amount of work done with the grunt available.

 

[ThatBuzzkiller]

I always thought that

Leading edge = Intel ...

Sooo were we ever leading edge to begin with ?

 

[monstercameron]

I always thought that

Leading edge = Intel ...

Sooo were we ever leading edge to begin with ?

I hate to be a buzzkill...and there is no punchline

 

[Ken g6]

I always thought that

Leading edge = Intel ...

Yep, there's a few people out there with 14nm GPUs...in their Intel CPUs. :sneaky:

 

[crisium]

At least the thread finally got the main point: Intel OP, please nerf.

 

[alcoholbob]

Shrinking discrete GPU market, growing Cell Phone market. Time is money, and vice versa. If there was enough market incentive we would be multiple nodes below in GPUs by now as someone would have provided a better service than TSMC. It's simply a matter of money.

 

[poohbear]

In December 2011, the iPhone was at 45nm and PC GPUs were at 28nm.

In December 2014, the iPhone is at 20nm and PC GPUs are at 28nm.

It's time we admitted that we're no longer the leading edge.

what does nm have to do with lesding edge? Maxwelll is 28nm and it blows all other 28nm GPUs out the water in performance & even power efficiency.

Also AMD & Intel use the same nm, but a haswell runs circles around AMDs offerings.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

what does nm have to do with lesding edge? Maxwelll is 28nm and it blows all other 28nm GPUs out the water in performance & even power efficiency.

Also AMD & Intel use the same nm, but a haswell runs circles around AMDs offerings.

Haswell is 22nm, actually, although you still have a valid point imo.

 

[LPCTech]

In what realm are cell phones and discrete PC GPUs comparable?

What does the process thickness in these 2 unrelated items have to do with anything. What is the intention of this post? Explain the thought process in the posting of this "information". What is going on? lol

 

[DeathReborn]

Call me when it can run 3x4K eyefinity...

PC GPU's would be on 20nm by now if TSMC/GF hadn't screwed the process up.

 

[Zodiark1593]

Lemme know when we finally get real-time ray tracing mainstream. Seems with the slowdown in PC GPUs, this will take a while longer yet.

 

[ThatBuzzkiller]

Lemme know when we finally get real-time ray tracing mainstream. Seems with the slowdown in PC GPUs, this will take a while longer yet.

Ray tracing is worthless ...

 

[Zodiark1593]

Ray tracing is worthless ...

Go check out the stuff on the posted website, then come tell me ray trace is worthless. :sneaky:

http://blenderartists.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?10-Finished-Projects/page1

 

[ThatBuzzkiller]

Go check out the stuff on the posted website, then come tell me ray trace is worthless. :sneaky:

http://blenderartists.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?10-Finished-Projects/page1

Except those projects aren't using ray tracing ...

It's metropolis light transport ...

Ray tracing as we know it is in itself useless ...

 

[Mondozei]

Good thread. Love the defensive reactions to it

Still, in 2015 we're likely going to see GPUs on 14 nm via GloFo. Maybe people can correct me, but mobile SoCs won't be on any lower node than 14 nm either.

So while what you said was true in these past few years, this is coming to balance by 2015.

I think part of the reason why this is happening is that the growth of high-performance smartphones is levelling off. Mature markets are saturated and the kind of phones that are selling now are low-cost, because there is still a ton of legroom left in places like India, Indonesia, much of Africa and so on. And you can't sell high-end phones there. The Xiaomi model is interesting, but the reality is that the S800 is no longer high-end, it's midend.