Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Now if this claim doesn't scream "You had better impeach me or I am going to take total control".....then I don't know what does.
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I note that Congress has the authority to both hold trials and imprison violators. It hasn't been used in a long time. Time to dust that policy off.
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I note that Congress has the authority to both hold trials and imprison violators. It hasn't been used in a long time. Time to dust that policy off.
I really don't see what that's going to do. The same WH officials who are ignoring Congress now will ignore Congress then, and what enforcement arm does Congress have to compel witnesses to testify? Besides, any Congressional trials would just be spun as political witch hunts. As you noted in a subsequent post, if this is headed anywhere, this is headed to the Supreme Court.
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I note that Congress has the authority to both hold trials and imprison violators. It hasn't been used in a long time. Time to dust that policy off.
I really don't see what that's going to do. The same WH officials who are ignoring Congress now will ignore Congress then, and what enforcement arm does Congress have to compel witnesses to testify? Besides, any Congressional trials would just be spun as political witch hunts. As you noted in a subsequent post, if this is headed anywhere, this is headed to the Supreme Court.
Congress DOES have it's own police force and could use them to arrest those in violation. Of course Bush could send Federal agents to prevent it. At that point it would become painfully clear to almost everyone (including Congressional Reps up for reelection) that Bush has slipped a cog. THEN head to the SCOTUS. Have as much ammo for that as is possible, because they are going to need it. However the SCOTUS rules will determine the way the separation of powers works forever. I'm not against Congress going to the SCOTUS, but I am against them losing if they do.
Originally posted by: dyna
Congress needs to back off this attorney firing issue. When it comes to something such as firing somebody, laws don't give people a right to work. There are more pressing issues than this.
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Mursilis
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I note that Congress has the authority to both hold trials and imprison violators. It hasn't been used in a long time. Time to dust that policy off.
I really don't see what that's going to do. The same WH officials who are ignoring Congress now will ignore Congress then, and what enforcement arm does Congress have to compel witnesses to testify? Besides, any Congressional trials would just be spun as political witch hunts. As you noted in a subsequent post, if this is headed anywhere, this is headed to the Supreme Court.
Congress DOES have it's own police force and could use them to arrest those in violation. Of course Bush could send Federal agents to prevent it. At that point it would become painfully clear to almost everyone (including Congressional Reps up for reelection) that Bush has slipped a cog. THEN head to the SCOTUS. Have as much ammo for that as is possible, because they are going to need it. However the SCOTUS rules will determine the way the separation of powers works forever. I'm not against Congress going to the SCOTUS, but I am against them losing if they do.
I seriously doubt Congress has the guts to order its police force to arrest and detain WH officials for contempt.
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
You're probably right, but the alternative IMO is to forever cede it's co-equal Constitutional status. The SCOTUS may bail out Congress, however that's even riskier because once it turns over the decision to the courts, they are bound by it for good or ill. Personally, I think it's worth pushing the issue.
Originally posted by: KGBMAN
Originally posted by: dyna
Congress needs to back off this attorney firing issue. When it comes to something such as firing somebody, laws don't give people a right to work. There are more pressing issues than this.
Can't you see the bigger picture here? This could be heading for a Constitutional crisis!
How old are you?
Originally posted by: GrGr
Well the Reps and the Bush administration know they have SCOTUS in their pocket now. Arrest the White House criminals now and let the SCOTUS make a partisan joke out of it all later. Make the death of the republic official.
Originally posted by: dyna
Originally posted by: KGBMAN
Originally posted by: dyna
Congress needs to back off this attorney firing issue. When it comes to something such as firing somebody, laws don't give people a right to work. There are more pressing issues than this.
Can't you see the bigger picture here? This could be heading for a Constitutional crisis!
How old are you?
LOL, you have to be kidding me. I do see the bigger picture and this issue should have never gone this far. In the end congress is going to look like fools. I see the president as making this decision to say, this issue is over with move on. If it goes to SCOTUS then so be it and hopefully they make a correct non-partisan judgement. But congress needs move on.
Originally posted by: dyna
Originally posted by: KGBMAN
Originally posted by: dyna
Congress needs to back off this attorney firing issue. When it comes to something such as firing somebody, laws don't give people a right to work. There are more pressing issues than this.
Can't you see the bigger picture here? This could be heading for a Constitutional crisis!
How old are you?
LOL, you have to be kidding me. I do see the bigger picture and this issue should have never gone this far. In the end congress are going to look like fools. I see the president as making this decision to say, this issue is over with move on. If it goes to SCOTUS then so be it and hopefully they make a correct non-partisan judgement. But congress needs move on.
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: dyna
Originally posted by: KGBMAN
Originally posted by: dyna
Congress needs to back off this attorney firing issue. When it comes to something such as firing somebody, laws don't give people a right to work. There are more pressing issues than this.
Can't you see the bigger picture here? This could be heading for a Constitutional crisis!
How old are you?
LOL, you have to be kidding me. I do see the bigger picture and this issue should have never gone this far. In the end congress is going to look like fools. I see the president as making this decision to say, this issue is over with move on. If it goes to SCOTUS then so be it and hopefully they make a correct non-partisan judgement. But congress needs move on.
So when there is reasonable cause to believe that investigations are warranted for illegal activities (I'm referring to the wiretaps not the firings, or any other potential serious matter) and the President overrules Congress, Congress should move on?
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Maybe the farmers will pick up their pitchforks and ride to Washington.
Originally posted by: dyna
Congress needs to back off this attorney firing issue. When it comes to something such as firing somebody, laws don't give people a right to work. There are more pressing issues than this.