It's OFFICIAL: CNN Declares HD-DVD Dead!

[lupi]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: LordSnailz
This is definitely a victory for Sony. True they spend lots of money promoting blu ray, but guess what it worked. They're the only game in town now. Even though you say Toshiba never really put any kind of money into the promoting hd-dvd, they'll stand to lose a lot more than Sony.

The amount of money spent between the two is grossly disproportionate.

1. Sony spent a few billion to subsidize the Blu-Ray player in the PS3, by some estimates that alone cost them $2-3BN.

2. Sony purchased a movie company to keep it from HD DVD hands, cost was $2.9BN

3. Sony then bought Warner Bro's exclusivity for another $500+ Million.

4. Toshiba spent a reported $250M for Paramount and then a few hundred million for player subsidies and wind-down.

Sony might be able to recoup some of the almost $7BN cost that Blu-Ray incurred, but it will take years to do so. Meanwhile, the velocity of technology change is quickening, which may make Blu-Ray obsolete in less than 5 years. That means Sony needs to have $1.4Bn in pure profit from Blu-Ray per year over the next 5 years to just *break even*, not even to gain actual profit.

Who got the shaft on this deal? Definitely not Toshiba. They gambled, lost a few hundred million, moved onto the next business. BFD, companies do that all of the time. It's not often that they sink ~$7BN into a line that has marginal ability to turn a profit.

Add to that the new reports of a Sony-Toshiba deal for toshiba to supply chips for the PS3 and other items and it seems maybe sony even tried to pay HDDVD to go exclusive.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Paramount officially turns blu

all 6 major studios are now blu ray...

Sony
Disney
Fox
Warner Brothers
Universal
Paramount

Yay!

So when do I finally get Transformers and the "Borne" movies in Blu-Ray?

 

[OhSnap688]

damn, does this mean I should get a PS3 now?!?! I don't wanna

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: OhSnap688
damn, does this mean I should get a PS3 now?!?! I don't wanna

No real point unless you're going to use it .

 

[TheTony]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Paramount officially turns blu

all 6 major studios are now blu ray...

Sony
Disney
Fox
Warner Brothers
Universal
Paramount

I saw an article this morning saying HD DVD was "kicked while it was down" because Universal and Amazon are shifting their sole focus. While the above link is a valid story, I'm at a loss on how people think any defections are "news" at this point, at least in terms of some kind of real loss. It's common sense that any party who were invested in HDM and had a stake in HD DVD would most likely migrate their sole focus to BD now. I guess I shouldn't be suprised, after seeing all the rhetoric-based stories floating around over the last several months.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: TheTony

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Paramount officially turns blu

all 6 major studios are now blu ray...

Sony
Disney
Fox
Warner Brothers
Universal
Paramount

I saw an article this morning saying HD DVD was "kicked while it was down" because Universal and Amazon are shifting their sole focus. While the above link is a valid story, I'm at a loss on how people think any defections are "news" at this point, at least in terms of some kind of real loss. It's common sense that any party who were invested in HDM and had a stake in HD DVD would most likely migrate their sole focus to BD now. I guess I shouldn't be suprised, after seeing all the rhetoric-based stories floating around over the last several months.

rofl..."kicked while it was down". It's just pissing on it's corpse at this point.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Paramount officially turns blu

all 6 major studios are now blu ray...

Sony
Disney
Fox
Warner Brothers
Universal
Paramount

Yay!

So when do I finally get Transformers and the "Borne" movies in Blu-Ray?

pretty soon I'd imagine (for Transformers). I believe they had already been printed on BD before the HD DVD exclusive bid hit. Assuming they didn't immolate their stock, I'm guessing 1 -2 months?

 

[daveymark]

yeah I can't wait for TF on BR too. glad the format war is finally over, this will cause many consumers to finally take the plunge and buy a blu ray player

 

[conehead433]

So I broke down and ordered a Toshiba HD-A30 on Amazon yesterday for $129.99 shipped. I had a $50 gift card to use and the rebate for 5 free HD DVDs requires purchase of a player on or before 2-28. I expect the price to drop further but at least I've got the 30 day Amazon price guarantee so hopefully I will end up getting it for less. Now I'm eagerly waiting on some cheap titles.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: LordSnailz
This is definitely a victory for Sony. True they spend lots of money promoting blu ray, but guess what it worked. They're the only game in town now. Even though you say Toshiba never really put any kind of money into the promoting hd-dvd, they'll stand to lose a lot more than Sony.

The amount of money spent between the two is grossly disproportionate.

1. Sony spent a few billion to subsidize the Blu-Ray player in the PS3, by some estimates that alone cost them $2-3BN.

2. Sony purchased a movie company to keep it from HD DVD hands, cost was $2.9BN

3. Sony then bought Warner Bro's exclusivity for another $500+ Million.

4. Toshiba spent a reported $250M for Paramount and then a few hundred million for player subsidies and wind-down.

Sony might be able to recoup some of the almost $7BN cost that Blu-Ray incurred, but it will take years to do so. Meanwhile, the velocity of technology change is quickening, which may make Blu-Ray obsolete in less than 5 years. That means Sony needs to have $1.4Bn in pure profit from Blu-Ray per year over the next 5 years to just *break even*, not even to gain actual profit.

Who got the shaft on this deal? Definitely not Toshiba. They gambled, lost a few hundred million, moved onto the next business. BFD, companies do that all of the time. It's not often that they sink ~$7BN into a line that has marginal ability to turn a profit.

rofl, is this the new argument that hd-dvd fanboys are going with now? that sony lost too much money in the war to be declared the victor?

yup, it is :laugh:

 

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: conehead433
So I broke down and ordered a Toshiba HD-A30 on Amazon yesterday for $129.99 shipped. I had a $50 gift card to use and the rebate for 5 free HD DVDs requires purchase of a player on or before 2-28. I expect the price to drop further but at least I've got the 30 day Amazon price guarantee so hopefully I will end up getting it for less. Now I'm eagerly waiting on some cheap titles.

... :Q

Why?

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: conehead433
So I broke down and ordered a Toshiba HD-A30 on Amazon yesterday for $129.99 shipped. I had a $50 gift card to use and the rebate for 5 free HD DVDs requires purchase of a player on or before 2-28. I expect the price to drop further but at least I've got the 30 day Amazon price guarantee so hopefully I will end up getting it for less. Now I'm eagerly waiting on some cheap titles.

... :Q

Why?

Counting the freebies it's cheaper than most standard DVD players. Do people who buy those get mocked for buying an obsolete betamax? I'd find all this hysteria sad if it weren't getting me such great deals on movies.

What's really funny is that I'll probably be able to get a fully functional bluray in several months for less than half what people are paying for PS3s. So even adding in the $120 for my A2 I still come out way ahead.

Suckas!

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: conehead433
So I broke down and ordered a Toshiba HD-A30 on Amazon yesterday for $129.99 shipped. I had a $50 gift card to use and the rebate for 5 free HD DVDs requires purchase of a player on or before 2-28. I expect the price to drop further but at least I've got the 30 day Amazon price guarantee so hopefully I will end up getting it for less. Now I'm eagerly waiting on some cheap titles.

... :Q

Why?

Counting the freebies it's cheaper than most standard DVD players. Do people who buy those get mocked for buying an obsolete betamax? I'd find all this hysteria sad if it weren't getting me such great deals on movies.

What's really funny is that I'll probably be able to get a fully functional bluray in several months for less than half what people are paying for PS3s. So even adding in the $120 for my A2 I still come out way ahead.

Suckas!

If you wait long enough, everythings betamax.. In any case, looking for deals on hddvds. I alread have the a3... got my parents one to.. If the price is right, might get an xa2 (looking for arround $100)...

Disc, just agreed to buy casablanca from a person on craigslist for $10. I'm sure their going to be some nice fire sales.. hopefully

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Paramount officially turns blu

all 6 major studios are now blu ray...

Sony
Disney
Fox
Warner Brothers
Universal
Paramount

Yay!

So when do I finally get Transformers and the "Borne" movies in Blu-Ray?

pretty soon I'd imagine (for Transformers). I believe they had already been printed on BD before the HD DVD exclusive bid hit. Assuming they didn't immolate their stock, I'm guessing 1 -2 months?

It might not be that long!!!

 

[KeypoX]

well its over is any surprised? Hd dvd could have won though... they had to come standard in the xbox. I figured bd would win due to ps3 and the max cap.

 

[Glavinsolo]

Why are so many people bidding on HD-DVD players?

http://search.ebay.com/search/...+dvd+player&category0=

 

[Cruisin1]

Welp I caved in yesterday and went out and bought me a PS3 Man 1080p looks oh so wonderful.