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It's now what you know, but who you know -- how true is this?

Nocturnal

Nocturnal

Lifer
i think its like who you know in real life that can and will get you some where.

well on the other hand if you're a genius then that's a whole different story.

but if you're just a regular guy who has schooling and what not, and you are trying to get into jobs but dont.. dont you think if you knew someone in high places or someone who had a lot of connections, you could get into a lot of jobs, or any othe oppurtunities?
 
Well, from what sense I could make of what you wrote...

Who know you will only get you so far, but what you know will keep you there.
 
Ok ok, I meant like "if you know people in high places, or have friends in high places, you can get hooked up."

If you don't know anyone in high places, you usually have a harder time getting "hooked up."

That was what I was trying to get across.

Let me know if you still dont catch on to what I'm trying to say.
 
You can find jobs/opportunities without crazy connections but it sure helps. I just got a job (FINALLY!!) because a friend of the family type person set me up with a meeting with the IT guy. He was very certain to tell me how he interviewed other people and my getting hired is purely on skill and belief I would do well in the company not just cause I knew someone. But it still remains that I wouldn't have found out about the opportunity if I didn't know this guy, so in that case.. it was who I knew to get me the interview, and what I knew to get me the job.
 
I get it and to a certain extent it's true. Moving up the ladder will be easier, but staying there is up to you and your performance.
 
I don't think you can make a blanket statement on it, it depends on what you're talking about.

The entertainment industry, for example, is so saturated with people with very similar levels of talent, that who you know just about entirely determines how far you go.

Though I can't think of many cases where it doesn't help to have contacts.

 
There will always be room for people who are capable at their job.

That being said, there will always be people above those who are capable with no greater reason for success than friends in power.

I'd much rather have the former, and I think it's more frequent and more reliable.
 


<< I get it and to a certain extent it's true. Moving up the ladder will be easier, but staying there is up to you and your performance. >>


Unless you make new and higher connections 🙂
 
Sure, nepotism and cronyism exist everywhere. Haven't you ever helped friends or relatives get a job? Haven't friends or relatives ever put-in a good word for you? If you were selling something and two people were interested - a perfect stranger and a good friend - to whom would you give first crack? If you worked for Office Max and had prior knowledge about a killer sale that was happening this weekend, is there something wrong with passing that information along to a friend or family member?

Nobody has offered me something for nothing, as in some relative's company 'creating' a high-paying position for me that required nothing more than punching the clock twice a day, but I've received "access" to employers through friends or family that I otherwise wouldn't have. I still had to fill-out applications and show them I was at least minimally qualified for the position. Knowing someone could only help get me in, convincing them that they had hired the right person for the job was my responsibility.

Knowing someone only gets you so far in the vast majority of cases, unless you know people at the very top. In my experience, the people who complain the most about the world being, not about what you know, but who you know, are those who don't know much of anything.
 
i think so. i actually believe that knowing people gets things taken care of.

for example:

i bring prioirty mail boxes to the P.O. (they cant order them). who do you think gets waved into the line at 5:01?
 
Actually, it's not what you know or who you know. It's what you know about who you know.. 😛

Jobwise, I've found that it's all about getting the hook-up. Once that's done, you're on your own...
 
the combination of both will make your life a lot easier, but so true that what you know will keep you there for some time.
 
its very true for corporate america...you could be a 10 times harder worker than someone else, but that other person will get more credit or make it further because of who he/she knows....rarely have i seen actual hard work rewarded w/o personally knowing someone above on the ladder, actually i take that back, i have seen hard work rewarded, but they busted their ass to get recognized, i'm talking about like 80 hr work weeks....whereas another person will work only 40 and still get promoted...:|
 
Who you know is more important....but, if you are dumb, you won't know very many people and those people can't help you anyway. It is a delicate balance....I have gotten farther in life by who I know, not what I know.....I bullsh!tted my way into my last 2 jobs and learned the job after I was hired.....I was hired for who I knew, not what I knew. Now, after I am in, I have learned to align myself with people who can get you farther, but I also work hard to stay ahead.
 
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