it's n00bie time...

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Just buy your own damn equipment and forget the gym hassle! 🙂

A gym is so much less expensive though.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Spamela
at the gym.

who sees this year after year?

every January there's a huge number of people crowding the gym,
trying to keep their vow to lose weight & get in shape.

after a couple of months, PFFT - 90% are gone.

it seems that most people in the USA don't have the discipline
to do anything moderately challenging.

I fail to see why lifting something heavy is "challenging" or why it takes discipline to do so. I also do not think your personal observations and perception of possibly a few hundred people is indicative of the habits of 200 million+.
My own personal opinion is that within the scientific community alone there are hundreds of thousands of dedicated professionals conducting research that is far more challenging and requires far more discipline than going to the gym
3-5 times a week to pump your buddies......

Maybe those people that leave after a few weeks/months have reached their goal?

my sample population is small, but i've been a member of numerous gyms
& always seen the same pattern. in addition, other people
from across the country whom i've met & with whom
i've corresponded over the years have identical experiences.

hmm, i bet their research doesn't involve voluntarily enduring physical pain
multiple times per week. furthermore, few people are capable of scientific research,
whereas most people are capable (potentially) of becoming fit.

fitness clearly isn't a goal that you obtain once, then keep without constant effort.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: ThePresence
Just buy your own damn equipment and forget the gym hassle! 🙂

A gym is so much less expensive though.

right. mine is $17/month - i like to joke that i use $17/month in hot water showering there.

 

[StageLeft]

I fail to see why lifting something heavy is "challenging" or why it takes discipline to do so. I also do not think your personal observations and perception of possibly a few hundred people is indicative of the habits of 200 million+.

You're right - a few hundred people is not indicative. But, the population as a whole is - and the population as a whole is getting fatter by the year. 1/3 of adults are obese, and of the remaining 2/3 half of them are clinically overweight. The fattest country on the planet. You say you don't see it as challenging, but obviously most of the general public does.

Maybe those people that leave after a few weeks/months have reached their goal?

See above.

My own personal opinion is that within the scientific community alone there are hundreds of thousands of dedicated professionals conducting research that is far more challenging and requires far more discipline than going to the gym

Really they're different challenges. Personally my work ethic is not stellar. There are plenty of people who work more hours than I do and harder. I've just never been into it. And yet I have a better discipline for working out than most people I know. Plenty of successful professionals simply lack the will power to consistently workout, whereas I do not, though they have better work ethic than I in the professional arena. They are really different areas.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Spamela

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Spamela
at the gym.

who sees this year after year?

every January there's a huge number of people crowding the gym,
trying to keep their vow to lose weight & get in shape.

after a couple of months, PFFT - 90% are gone.

it seems that most people in the USA don't have the discipline
to do anything moderately challenging.

I fail to see why lifting something heavy is "challenging" or why it takes discipline to do so. I also do not think your personal observations and perception of possibly a few hundred people is indicative of the habits of 200 million+.
My own personal opinion is that within the scientific community alone there are hundreds of thousands of dedicated professionals conducting research that is far more challenging and requires far more discipline than going to the gym
3-5 times a week to pump your buddies......

Maybe those people that leave after a few weeks/months have reached their goal?

my sample population is small, but i've been a member of numerous gyms
& always seen the same pattern. in addition, other people
from across the country whom i've met & with whom
i've corresponded over the years have identical experiences.

hmm, i bet their research doesn't involve voluntarily enduring physical pain
multiple times per week. furthermore, few people are capable of scientific research,
whereas most people are capable (potentially) of becoming fit.

fitness clearly isn't a goal that you obtain once, then keep without constant effort.

You're right it isn't but it also isn't a straight line type of progession for many people for a variety of reasons.I started out slow,I started walking every day,watching what I eat,I lost a bunch of weight and started walking even more.I also started reading about things like a healthy diet and exercise.The whole process for me from chubby middle aged gal to fairly slender going to the gym everyday gal has taken 2 yrs.I think people accomplish more with positive motivation than they do with being laughed at and ridiculed.


I am here to tell you that dragging my old ass to that gym every night after work is one of the hardest things I've ever done.I'm working on blind faith here,in the thought that some day I'll feel good physically and that mentally one day after working out at the gym.

 

[StageLeft]

I think people accomplish more with positive motivation than they do with being laughed at and ridiculed.

I think positive encouragement and realism is the best. Most people do not continue with workout programs. They fail time and time again. If they're aware of what they're up against by people not sugar coating it and then given encouragement, it's more helpful than simply going into it blind.

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: Spamela

i don't like to see people wasting their time, but if they think
they know what they're doing, i'm not going to try to give
them my opinion.

I see so many people doing things wrong, dangerously and or unproductively that it makes me laugh. I have offered advice in the past but people think that they understand what they are doing and are not open to any advice, no matter how nice you are or how big you are.

I happen to be the biggest natural guy in nearly any gym I go to. I have researched techniques and been personally trained. Yet when I have offered polite suggestions to others on form, method or simply asked them about their routine, they either look angry, confused or stupid. So, headphones are a great way to close out the wannabees and focus on the angst that drives me towards my personal fitness goal.

I do have a workout partner that I see about 7 times a month. I don't wear headphones with him. But then again, he shares my understanding and desire to be fit.

So, this thread has validity and perhaps only seems germane to those of us that have labored for physique for years and have seen the masses come every January to try their hand but lose their footing when it comes to commitment.

If you don't get it or feel offended, then it just makes me wonder how long you will be darkening the doorway of your gym. As for me, as long as I have the gumption, I'm gonna keep on truckin. Newbees, temps and druggys all work out in my gym. I'll help you if you need it but otherwise, stay out of the way and DON'T SIT ON THE EQUIPMENT BETWEEN SETS. It doesn't have your name on it, move on!!

Oh yea, while I'm ranting, the whole newbie phenom disgusts me.

that's enough for now...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: Spamela

i don't like to see people wasting their time, but if they think
they know what they're doing, i'm not going to try to give
them my opinion.

I see so many people doing things wrong, dangerously and or unproductively that it makes me laugh. I have offered advice in the past but people think that they understand what they are doing and are not open to any advice, no matter how nice you are or how big you are.

I happen to be the biggest natural guy in nearly any gym I go to. I have researched techniques and been personally trained. Yet when I have offered polite suggestions to others on form, method or simply asked them about their routine, they either look angry, confused or stupid. So, headphones are a great way to close out the wannabees and focus on the angst that drives me towards my personal fitness goal.

I do have a workout partner that I see about 7 times a month. I don't wear headphones with him. But then again, he shares my understanding and desire to be fit.

So, this thread has validity and perhaps only seems germane to those of us that have labored for physique for years and have seen the masses come every January to try their hand but lose their footing when it comes to commitment.

If you don't get it or feel offended, then it just makes me wonder how long you will be darkening the doorway of your gym. As for me, as long as I have the gumption, I'm gonna keep on truckin. Newbees, temps and druggys all work out in my gym. I'll help you if you need it but otherwise, stay out of the way and DON'T SIT ON THE EQUIPMENT BETWEEN SETS. It doesn't have your name on it, move on!!

Oh yea, while I'm ranting, the whole newbie phenom disgusts me.

that's enough for now...

Jesus, chill out Muscle Head. Not everybody lives to work out. Dicks like you are more annoying than you are impressive.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: Spamela

i don't like to see people wasting their time, but if they think
they know what they're doing, i'm not going to try to give
them my opinion.

I see so many people doing things wrong, dangerously and or unproductively that it makes me laugh. I have offered advice in the past but people think that they understand what they are doing and are not open to any advice, no matter how nice you are or how big you are.

I happen to be the biggest natural guy in nearly any gym I go to. I have researched techniques and been personally trained. Yet when I have offered polite suggestions to others on form, method or simply asked them about their routine, they either look angry, confused or stupid. So, headphones are a great way to close out the wannabees and focus on the angst that drives me towards my personal fitness goal.

I do have a workout partner that I see about 7 times a month. I don't wear headphones with him. But then again, he shares my understanding and desire to be fit.

So, this thread has validity and perhaps only seems germane to those of us that have labored for physique for years and have seen the masses come every January to try their hand but lose their footing when it comes to commitment.

If you don't get it or feel offended, then it just makes me wonder how long you will be darkening the doorway of your gym. As for me, as long as I have the gumption, I'm gonna keep on truckin. Newbees, temps and druggys all work out in my gym. I'll help you if you need it but otherwise, stay out of the way and DON'T SIT ON THE EQUIPMENT BETWEEN SETS. It doesn't have your name on it, move on!!

Oh yea, while I'm ranting, the whole newbie phenom disgusts me.

that's enough for now...

Lol, one would think that a "naturally big guy" would simply be grateful for what nature saw fit to give him and have a bit of compassion for those poor SOB's who weren't so blessed.Btw,I will "keep trucking" to the damn gym no matter what,I paid for pain dammit and I want my money's worth😛


Btw Skoorb,while dressing this morning I noticed a lump in my arm and kinda freaked,hehehe it's a muscle 😀

 

[Red Dawn]

BTW Gravity, this is one of the few cases where I am emboldened by the Anonymity of the Internet LOL🙂🙂

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw Skoorb,while dressing this morning I noticed a lump in my arm and kinda freaked,hehehe it's a muscle 😀

I noticed a mountain on my arm one day and realized that it was my bicep!

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw Skoorb,while dressing this morning I noticed a lump in my arm and kinda freaked,hehehe it's a muscle 😀

I noticed a mountain on my arm one day and realized that it was my bicep!

Oh hush Brooks 🙂

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day,I've never eaten so much in my life and I haven't lost or gained any weight yet.I must say my energy level feels better thru out the day on this diet plan.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

Yeah, I was on a "high-carb" diet. Almond M&Ms, gummi bears, beer, etc. 😀 When not eating like a sinner I aim for 6 protein meals/day too.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

Bah, I eat when I'm hungry and I am rarely hungy more than 3 times a day. If I had to monitor my dietary intake I wouldn't.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

Yeah, I was on a "high-carb" diet. Almond M&Ms, gummi bears, beer, etc. 😀 When not eating like a sinner I aim for 6 protein meals/day too.

Actually you're talking to the queen of will power when it comes to hard core dieting.I bought chinese food for my house last evening as the new year's cheat and had a small meal,served on a plate that a 2 yr old uses.My eating is clean I'd say about 75-80% of the time now and I think it's pretty good,it gives me health while also allowing me to be human.


I can't manage meals x3 a day,it's too much food at one time for me. The good thing about all of this is that different things work best for different people.I eat now,regularly and I eat good stuff,a big improvement for me.

 

[StageLeft]

Actually you're talking to the queen of will power when it comes to hard core dieting.I bought chinese food for my house last evening as the new year's cheat and had a small meal,served on a plate that a 2 yr old uses.My eating is clean I'd say about 75-80% of the time now and I think it's pretty good,it gives me health while also allowing me to be human.

i'm all or nothing. I eat well about 5 days out of the week (not including the last month!) and the other two days you'd think I had an eating disorder. I've found that it works well for weight management for me, kind of following the body for life idea of 6 strict days a week (sometimes only 5 though), and then a "cheat" day. I don't deliberately eat all I can, but I do have a big appetite. Then on my strict days I have to monitor calorie intake, otherwise I just end up eating too much.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

Bah, I eat when I'm hungry and I am rarely hungy more than 3 times a day. If I had to monitor my dietary intake I wouldn't.

me too. i tried the 5 or 6 smaller meals/day idea, but
had trouble eating by the clock.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

its a shame on how people are a newb or an outkast in something and don't want to be laughed at, but yet when they are on the other end they don't mind making the fun at the newbs...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

Yeah, I was on a "high-carb" diet. Almond M&Ms, gummi bears, beer, etc. 😀 When not eating like a sinner I aim for 6 protein meals/day too.

Actually you're talking to the queen of will power when it comes to hard core dieting.I bought chinese food for my house last evening as the new year's cheat and had a small meal,served on a plate that a 2 yr old uses.My eating is clean I'd say about 75-80% of the time now and I think it's pretty good,it gives me health while also allowing me to be human.


I can't manage meals x3 a day,it's too much food at one time for me. The good thing about all of this is that different things work best for different people.I eat now,regularly and I eat good stuff,a big improvement for me.

LOL, had some Egg Rolls last night. I was passing some serious gas afterwards. Argh Cabbage farts, El Stinko!

They say when you eat healthy you fart alot, well I must eat very healthy!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: SuPrEIVIE
its a shame on how people are a newb or an outkast in something and don't want to be laughed at, but yet when they are on the other end they don't mind making the fun at the newbs...

Well at this Forum getting dissed as a Noob is how you earn your chops. When I first joined back in early 97 I was dissed by Russ, Harvey (not so much by him) H8tank and Rio Rebel to name a few and I survived. Now I feel it's my duty to keep up the age old tradition by dissing the Noobs who sign up here. Hell if they can deal with it then they earn their place. If not then they soon become a footnote.


Of course that was back when men were men and the rest were posting at AOL Chatrooms😉

Hey I keed, I keed! LOL

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Btw,they've got me eating 5-6 times a day.

Sounds like my Christmas "diet" 😀

no,it's a whole lotta protein and good carbs but carbs eaten at times of peak need instead of at night before bed. And all the water,I swear all I do is drink and pee.

Yeah, I was on a "high-carb" diet. Almond M&Ms, gummi bears, beer, etc. 😀 When not eating like a sinner I aim for 6 protein meals/day too.

Actually you're talking to the queen of will power when it comes to hard core dieting.I bought chinese food for my house last evening as the new year's cheat and had a small meal,served on a plate that a 2 yr old uses.My eating is clean I'd say about 75-80% of the time now and I think it's pretty good,it gives me health while also allowing me to be human.


I can't manage meals x3 a day,it's too much food at one time for me. The good thing about all of this is that different things work best for different people.I eat now,regularly and I eat good stuff,a big improvement for me.

LOL, had some Egg Rolls last night. I was passing some serious gas afterwards. Argh Cabbage farts, El Stinko!

They say when you eat healthy you fart alot, well I must eat very healthy!

who you telling about your farts Sir Faltulence? Between you and the cat gas masks are needed here🙂