It's high time we disconnect the War in Iraq from the War on Terror

[Doboji]

Read the PNAC documents, and you will see that the War in Iraq = War on terrorism

I support the principles of the PNAC...

 

[NeoV]

only a lemming thinks they are really connected anyway

 

[dahunan]

All we did was give the people in the ME and Iraq a reason to actually declare war on us.. How many innocent civilians have we killed over there? 50,000? while Osama killed 3000 here.. Who is the bad guy now?

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: dahunan
All we did was give the people in the ME and Iraq a reason to actually declare war on us.. How many innocent civilians have we killed over there? 50,000? while Osama killed 3000 here.. Who is the bad guy now?

You have Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: straightalker

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There is no war in Iraq. There is an occupation. We won the war long ago.

The USA Troops in Iraq are still on a war footing in the Middle East. Let's not let the psyops of the Pentagon's hired media manipulators cloud our rational thinking processes here. The entire Middle East is a powder keg waiting to blow up. Many are predicting a move by the Israeli Zionists and the American Neo Fascists onto Iran and Syria.

This thread is loaded with misconceptions. The phrase "war on terror" is a Pentagon manufactured psyop. Let's see if we can unravel this. There is war. And there is terror. Terror is a tactic, not a Country. You can't have the USA declare a "war on terror" because the Congress cannot declare war on a tactic.

Next. What is one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Psyops is all about perception control. We are being manipulated by the USA/Israeli/British military industrial complex to engage in a 100 year war on terror strickly for profit and ideological reasons. It has nothing whatsoever to do with securing American's safety. We have long been declared expendable by them. As have all of our soldiers.

I understand and am fully familiar with this point of view. I simply do not buy into this vast conspiratorial kind of thinking. The military industrial complex lobbies and is along for the ride, but I don't think they are in control anymore than generalized chaos. There are a huge number of forces at play in this and similar matters and there aren't defined bad guys and controllers behind the curtain pulling the strings, in my opinion. There is a PNAC doctrine out there and PNAC fools in place in this admin. and I think, if anybody is pulling the strings, or pulled them, it is they. They are right out there in broad daylight advocating their views and can be gotten rid of at the ballot box. My feeling it is too much intelligence coupled with too much frustration and a bunch of suppressed feelings of being misunderstood as a child that creates these paranoia themes. I call you a crack pot, but you have my sympathy and many of my political leanings, but I simply can't go, mentally where you go because I do not have physical evidence that persuades me. I see madness and chaos and greed, ambition, stupidity, fear and many other things at work, but I do not organization and sinister purpose Illuminati, the federal reserve, the Trilateral Commission and crap like that. Sorry. The the active and frightened mind sees patterns in ink blots. So far I see ink blots, but I do know there are horses in the sky.

 

[trenchfoot]

A majority of the country viewed invading Iraq as connected to the response to 9/11, as a step in removing the situation which allowed terrorists/violent jihadists to flourish. The fact that the situation did not turn out that way does not change that fact.

i agree with your first sentence. however, again in hindsight, the "war on terror" propaganda the bush administration was feeding the american people at that time had everything to do with creating, fomenting and reinforcing that particular view.