Its high time the boy scouts allowed freethinkers to join.

DCal430

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Some people are unaware but the boy scouts do not allow freethinkers aka nontheist to join. Like their ban on homosexuality this ban is discriminatory and should be lifted.
 
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The public has not conformed to that standard and is still brainwashed by the general stance of theism. Much like homosexuality, unless it is publicly converted everyone no one cares. If the public does care, than groups of people will get butt-hurt because they are excluded from a club. And everyone should be members of ALL CLUBS OR ELSE ITS NOT FAIR!
 

edro

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They are a private club; they can do whatever the hell they want.

They can ban atheists, gays, blacks, Lithuanians... anyone they want!
 

dougp

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Some people are unaware but the boy scouts do not allow freethinkers aka nontheist to join. Like their ban on homosexuality this ban is discriminatory and should be lifted.

Then don't join.

That's part of the fact that they're a private group. And until they change the rule of a belief in God is required, then I see no reason why they should change the ban on homosexuality. You see far fewer people talk about the one vs. the other unless the ban on homosexuality comes up.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with anyone's lifestyle or sexual preference, but the rules are pretty well known. Something you should take up as a cause is perhaps the entire "masculinity" that's forced upon professional sports, and them not "tolerating" openly gay athletes.

Who do you think has more of an impact upon society, the Boy Scouts or professional sports?
 

Ferzerp

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Their club. Their rules. If you don't share the core beliefs of their club, why would you want to participate in it?

signed,
a "free thinker"
 

boochi

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Why should the Scouts allow people that suffer from a paraphilia to join?
 

BladeVenom

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Free thinkers would believe in freedom, and think that the Boy Scouts should be free to have their own rules.
 

Jeff7

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Why should the Scouts allow people that suffer from a paraphilia to join?
Checking definition....
Ah, ok.


Answer: Diversification.



Other answer: They aren't suffering from it.

They're just Lithuanians.
 
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PottedMeat

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Yep...don't like it? Start your own club.

or convince your bosses not to give them money

Corporate Funding

In addition to donations from individuals, the BSA receives extensive donations from major corporations. In 2010, their top corporate donors were, in order, Intel, Emerson, Verizon, 3M, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Pfizer, Valero, UPS, U.S. Bank, Eli Lilly, GE, and Monsanto.[80] (Intel [45] and UPS cut funding to BSA in 2012)[46][47][48]
 

bigrash

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They can do whatever they like. And if you don't like their rules, why would you wanna join?
 

DCal430

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I am not questioning their legal right to deny who they want, simply saying it is wrong on a personal level. Legally they can do what they want.
 

natto fire

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I like how your handle describes that you are a douche, who resides in California ( gotta be the best breeding ground for douches).

But what does the number 430 represent?
 
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When I refused to include God in the oath during induction (back about '81 or so) they kicked me out. I had no idea they were a religious organization at the time or I never would have tried to join (was a DEDICATED atheist up until my 30s). Together with all the chaos surrounding the pledge of allegiance (and my precociousness and smart-ass demeanor) it resulted in 6 years of abuse, beatings, ridicule, and ostracizing.

While they're certainly free to do as they please, the problem is that there's really no alternative, except sometimes in very large areas. It's monopoly by demographics. In the end everyone suffers because kids have no other good options, get bent about no 'fitting in', turn inward and come back to shoot up their classmates (or at least don't become as good of citizens because they have no clubs/mentoring).

Rules like these, while within the bounds of law, are utterly immoral and decay societies.
 

lxskllr

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The bowline always kicked my ass, I wanted to kill that damned rabbit! ;)

The bowline is one of my favorites. Between that, sheet bend, figure 8, and variations of the half hitch, I don't need much else.
 

Greenman

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When I refused to include God in the oath during induction (back about '81 or so) they kicked me out. I had no idea they were a religious organization at the time or I never would have tried to join (was a DEDICATED atheist up until my 30s). Together with all the chaos surrounding the pledge of allegiance (and my precociousness and smart-ass demeanor) it resulted in 6 years of abuse, beatings, ridicule, and ostracizing.

While they're certainly free to do as they please, the problem is that there's really no alternative, except sometimes in very large areas. It's monopoly by demographics. In the end everyone suffers because kids have no other good options, get bent about no 'fitting in', turn inward and come back to shoot up their classmates (or at least don't become as good of citizens because they have no clubs/mentoring).

Rules like these, while within the bounds of law, are utterly immoral and decay societies.

So accepting God into your life would have made it a lot better, and would also prevent mass murders. That's a very interesting theory.
Imagine how much better your childhood would have been had your parents been wise enough to teach you tolerance.
 

IronWing

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The bowline is one of my favorites. Between that, sheet bend, figure 8, and variations of the half hitch, I don't need much else.
FU.





Okay, that was just a gut reaction from the soul of my being. I got sailing merit badge. We spent more time learning the stupid knots than we did sailing. The actual boats had clips, no knots needed.
 

Murloc

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wrong forum, anyway they're a private organization, if they're doing outrageous things, the lack of donations and public pressure will make them die. I don't even know their rules and I'm all for equality but this is a basic principle of liberalism. A religious organization has the right to include only religious people. Gays? Fix homophoby in sports first.
 

NoStateofMind

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I guess it would surprise you that someone who was gay was also closed minded. Thread title is silliness.
 

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