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I am cuurently working on a 356a speedster, the vehicle has ben completely disassembled down to the very last nut and bolt, the customer asked me to reassemble it from scratch.
(He dumped his previous mechanic for me)

Now, as for the engine rebuild and reassembly, no problems, I have built several of them before, what I am looking for is a body assembly manual or a online resource,
Currently the body is at Automotive Restorations having all the corrosion removed and new hand beaten panels made, once this is done I have to start the reassembly process and have it completely finished and ready by next April.
(Big Speedster meet in California)

I need a comprehensive guide/manual that shows where every last nut and bolt belongs as well as wiring diagrams, suspension settings, everything.

Does anyone know where I can find such material ?

Thanks :)
 
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Eli

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Damn, I really have no idea.. but.. there's no service manual for the car in existance?
 

Eli;
Thanks for the link, yes I alpeady have that book, it's not exactly what I am looking for, I need a body assembly manual ;)


Can't you maybe ask Porsche themselves?
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I already have, they have avintage assembly manual in a displaym case, not to be touched by human hands
:p

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Thanks for the link Aircooled :)

Take alot of pics! I wish I had one...!
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I'll take some pics of the previous two 356a and 356b tonight when I meet up with the customer, I cannot show you guys any pics of this restoration until the vehicle is completed. (Customers request)
 
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Originally posted by: Roger
Eli;
Thanks for the link, yes I alpeady have that book, it's not exactly what I am looking for, I need a body assembly manual ;)


Can't you maybe ask Porsche themselves?
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I already have, they have avintage assembly manual in a displaym case, not to be touched by human hands
:p

Edit;

Thanks for the link Aircooled :)

Take alot of pics! I wish I had one...!
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I'll take some pics of the previous two 356a and 356b tonight when I meet up with the customer, I cannot show you guys any pics of this restoration until the vehicle is completed. (Customers request)
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stupid Porsche.... they could just make a copy.
 
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Eli

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Originally posted by: Roger
Eli;
Thanks for the link, yes I alpeady have that book, it's not exactly what I am looking for, I need a body assembly manual ;)


Can't you maybe ask Porsche themselves?
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I already have, they have avintage assembly manual in a displaym case, not to be touched by human hands
:p
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That's just gay. They should've copied it before putting it under glass. ;)

Someone else has to have one, somewhere... Start calling all the Porche places around the country... lol
 
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Hemmings Motor News? Anything I ever wanted for old cars I've always found in there.
 

Hemmings Motor News? Anything I ever wanted for old cars I've always found in there.
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Thanks for the suggestion but Hemming's only list the crappy 928 :(
 
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Originally posted by: Roger
Hemmings Motor News? Anything I ever wanted for old cars I've always found in there.
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Thanks for the suggestion but Hemming's only list the crappy 928 :(
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This site has a wealth of information on 356's. Seems to me that they would know how to get you one.
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ASSEMBLY

77. Install the hood seal when the hood is off the car.

78. Ensure the hood seal is clean (see tools) and use a good rubber cement (i.e. Wurth). One method is to install the hood seal dry, make any adjustments then glue two foot sections at a time by lifting the screws and seal.

79. Some wiring i.e. fuse block, some switches can be done before the wiring harness is installed.

80. New hardware makes assembly a lot easier. Use the parts manual for sizing and plating.

81. Use duct tape to protect painted areas when installing doors and hood. Two people are better than one.

82. Reassembly of quarter windows after chroming and with new rubber is easier if you have a glass shop grind 1/16th" off the glass edge (cost around $15)

83. Fit repro bumper deco to a bumper before painting. You may have to remove center rubber to fit deco to bumper. Use wood blocks in center channel and a hammer to fit.

84. If you don?t have a factory parts book, the diagrams in Stoddard?s catalog are quite helpful.
I have this and it's crap ! ;)

85. Rubber seals around doors and front lid take awhile to seat. Make final adjustments later.

86. When assembling doors the plastic/rubber profile under the top chrome straps goes on first. You can?t get to the screws on the chrome strip once the glass is in.

87. Most electrical problems are ground problems. Do you have the ground strips/wires at all four corners for the lights/turn signals?

88. Prior to upholstry measure the location of screw holes which will be covered by carpet/headliner. Measure from a fixed point that will be available after upholstery.

89. That toe board mount with the welded nuts for the accelerator pedal may not have metric nuts. Check before trying to force a metric bolt.

90. The tow hook can be riveted by having a helper hold the rivet head down with a small socket and extension bar. Secure the tow hook with bolts and then remove a bolt and rivet one at a time. Rivets are hand painted after assembly and soft steel rivets are available at most hardware stores.

91. Today?s batteries don?t fit the T-6 battery position. Ensure good fit with wood shims.

92. When installing the rear window on C cars, be sure the defroster is clipped tight to the window opening ledge.

93. When reassembling under the dash, hook up washers first.

94. There should be a fiber board panel under the rear seat back carpet on B/C cars. This keeps the carpet from falling in the crack.

95. To keep the assembly momentum going, purchase all parts and supplies prior to assembly.

96. Do not over tighten any bolts in pot metal material i.e. carbs; they are easy to strip.

97. A headliner can be installled without a hair dryer which can cause more problems than it solves if you don?t know what you?re doing.

98. If you don?t know how to do it -- don?t do it! Call someone who knows. 356 people share information.
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Now that's a pile of crap !, I've asked just recently at the big meet at Limerock Park ct, because I was not dressed in a Porsche shirt, I got snubbed like I was some piece of gutter trash
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Hate to say it Roger, but everything I have read tells me that there is no definitive guide for 356 Porsches, especially not the 356 Pre-A and 356A cars. Seems there were more running changes than the factory kept tract of. They had a habit of updating a part in the middle of a model run and just mixing the new and the old part in the parts bins.

I would suggest that you try http://www.pelicanparts.com though. They have been great with my 914 and they should be able to point you to a few books on the subject. Also, if their 356 forums are as good as their 914 and 924S forums someone there should be able to direct you to what you need.

ZV
 

Thanks Zem, yes, I and the customer have already ordered many parts from Pelican, they too have a assembly manual that they will not give up.

Well, keep them coming guys, I'm off to the shop now, see you guys later :)
 
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Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Roger
Thanks Zem, yes, I and the customer have already ordered many parts from Pelican, they too have a assembly manual that they will not give up.

Well, keep them coming guys, I'm off to the shop now, see you guys later :)
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Wow, that's uncharacteristically non-helpful on Pelican's part, usually they'll bend over backwards. They still might be able to recommebd a couple of good restoration guides though.

ZV
 
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Have you checked with PCA (Porsche Club of America)? There are also a number of Lists. Dave Roberts in North Carolina is a big parts guy for 928s, at the very least he can probably steer you to a source. I don't remember Dave's business' name, but if you hit the lists (certainly 928 lists) you'll find him out there.

Google may be some help too.


Good Luck

Scott


 

Thanks for the link, but, the book I am looking for is the one used by the Porsche employees when the vehicles were manufactured inhouse, it's a manual that shows how everything is assembled down to the last nut and bolt and what order they were done ;)

Assembly manual
 
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dxkj

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Originally posted by: Roger
Thanks for the link, but, the book I am looking for is the one used by the Porsche employees when the vehicles were manufactured inhouse, it's a manual that shows how everything is assembled down to the last nut and bolt and what order they were done ;)

Assembly manual
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gotcha, good luck :)


You could always just fly semi-blind :)
 

You could always just fly semi-blind
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That's not the problem, I can assemble the vehicle correctly without the manual, but it will take time, this vehicle has to be ready by next April, this seems like a lot of time, but it ain't when the vehicle is disassembled down to the last nut and bolt. (especially if you didn't take the damn thing apart)

There are boxes and boxes and boxes of unnamed/untagged parts and I have NO IDEA where the hell they go :(
 
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Originally posted by: Roger
You could always just fly semi-blind
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That's not the problem, I can assemble the vehicle correctly without the manual, but it will take time, this vehicle has to be ready by next April, this seems like a lot of time, but it ain't when the vehicle is disassembled down to the last nut and bolt. (especially if you didn't take the damn thing apart)

There are boxes and boxes and boxes of unnamed/untagged parts and I have NO IDEA where the hell they go :(
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gotcha :(

I saw an online wiring diagram, but thats probably not what you need either.

Good luck!
 
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