Italian last names...

rh71

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do they always end in a vowel ? I was told by an Italian friend they mostly do, but not all. My wife thinks it is all... I need to prove her wrong, but I honestly don't know enough names to do it. Who's got some for me ?
 

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While Italian last names come from a variety of sources, each Italian region has adopted some types more than others with different spelling variations. For example, the common Italian surnames Risso and Russo both have the same meaning, but one is more prevalent in northern Italy, while the other traces its roots to the south. Italian surnames ending in -o usually come from southern Italy, whereas in northern Italy they can often be found ending with a -i. Tracking down the sources and variations of your Italian surname is an important part of Italian genealogical research and unveils an important part of your family history and Italian heritage.
Suffixes & Prefixes
Many Italian surnames are basically variations on a root name, made different by the addition of various prefixes and suffixes. Especially common are endings with vowels enclosing double consonants (e.g. -etti, -illo).The Italian preference for diminutives and pet names is the root behind many of the suffixes, as seen by the large number of Italian last names ending in -ini, -ino, -etti, -etto, -ello, and -illo, all of which mean "little." Other commonly added suffixes include -one meaning "big," -accio, meaning either "big" or "bad," and -ucci meaning "descendant of." Common prefixes of Italian surnames also have specific origins. The prefix "di" (meaning "of" or "from") is often attached to an given name to form a patronym. di Benedetto, for example, is the Italian equivalent of Benson (meaning "son of Ben") and di Giovanni is the Italian equivalent of Johnson (son of John). The prefix "di," along with the similar prefix "da" may also be associated with a place of origin (i.e the da Vinci surname referred to someone who originated from Vinci). The prefixes "la" and "lo" (meaning "the") often derived from nicknames (e.g. Giovanni la Fabro was John the smith), but also might be found attached to family names where it meant "of the family of" (e.g. the Greco family might become known as "lo Greco.")

Alias Surnames
In some areas of Italy, a second surname may have been adopted in order to distinguish between different branches of the same family, especially when the families remained in the same town for generations. These alias surnames can often be found preceded by the word detto, vulgo, or dit.

It sounds as though almost all end in vowels...Article from about.com
 

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Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...
 

Snapster

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.
 

Scarpozzi

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All I have to say is that when I was in Italy last month, it sucked trying to find street names on a map cause they all ended in vowels and looked alike. (started with the letter v and ended in i mostly. Confusing stuff...I assume most names would be like that too.


-Ryan
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.
Is that kinda like saying there are no Americans/Canadians playing in European hockey leagues right now ?
 

monk3y

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.
Is that kinda like saying there are no Americans/Canadians playing in European hockey leagues right now ?
LOL rh71 those are definately Italian players... Buffon is only the goalkeeper for the national team.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: InstincT
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.
Is that kinda like saying there are no Americans/Canadians playing in European hockey leagues right now ?
LOL rh71 those are definately Italian players... Buffon is only the goalkeeper for the national team.
ok, just wanted to be sure - perhaps Buffon's dad isn't Italian but his mom is... so he plays for Italy.

 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.

Meaning they don't have Italian last names. There are Italians without Italian last name. For all we know Donadel came from an Irishman who moved to Italy. Buffon used to be Buffonelli but was shortened at some point. Perhaps they are even "stage names" so to speak.

And it's not like you have to be Italian to play for the Italian national team.



 

Originally posted by: rh71
do they always end in a vowel ? I was told by an Italian friend they mostly do, but not all. My wife thinks it is all... I need to prove her wrong, but I honestly don't know enough names to do it. Who's got some for me ?
Excellent question! I'm checking with all of my Italian bfs. They're so seeeeeeeexy.... Checking....
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: rh71
do they always end in a vowel ? I was told by an Italian friend they mostly do, but not all. My wife thinks it is all... I need to prove her wrong, but I honestly don't know enough names to do it. Who's got some for me ?
Excellent question! I'm checking with all of my Italian bfs. They're so seeeeeeeexy.... Checking....
how many Italian bfs do you have? ;)
 

I knew this chick in high school. She was Italian, no question about it, and her last name was Johnson. I suppose they took the English version or something? :confused:

Here's a link for you to read: Italian Surnames. This link says that they often end with vowels, so I suppose that means not all end with vowels. It didn't give an example that didn't end with a vowel though. :confused:

Okay, this person explains it: Vowels in Italian Last Names. Apparently, it's a dialect thing. The Northerners tend to drop the vowels at the end. Yay, try Pavan! It's Italian! Even though it's a variant.

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: rh71
do they always end in a vowel ? I was told by an Italian friend they mostly do, but not all. My wife thinks it is all... I need to prove her wrong, but I honestly don't know enough names to do it. Who's got some for me ?
Excellent question! I'm checking with all of my Italian bfs. They're so seeeeeeeexy.... Checking....
how many Italian bfs do you have? ;)
What can I say! ... when you've had so many of the bfs in the past, and you forget the current number. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.

Meaning they don't have Italian last names. There are Italians without Italian last name. For all we know Donadel came from an Irishman who moved to Italy. Buffon used to be Buffonelli but was shortened at some point. Perhaps they are even "stage names" so to speak.

And it's not like you have to be Italian to play for the Italian national team.

Stage names? And yes you have to be a citizen of Italy with Italian heritage to play on the national team. I guess I can say there are non american americans with non american last names playing for our national team, or would that just sound stupid.
 

Originally posted by: rh71
do they always end in a vowel ? I was told by an Italian friend they mostly do, but not all. My wife thinks it is all... I need to prove her wrong, but I honestly don't know enough names to do it. Who's got some for me ?
In case my post is cluttered, I got an example for you to show to your wife. It's a real example: Pavan. Do a check on it if you want to be sure. It's Italiano! :p
 

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I met a girl whose last name is Petrucci. You know, like the virtuoso guitar god John Petrucci of Dream Theater? I told her we're going to get married and that I'm taking her last name.

Not that my comment had anything to do with this thread. :D
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: DearQT
I knew this chick in high school. She was Italian, no question about it, and her last name was Johnson. I suppose they took the English version or something? :confused:

Here's a link for you to read: Italian Surnames. This link says that they often end with vowels, so I suppose that means not all end with vowels. It didn't give an example that didn't end with a vowel though. :confused:

Okay, this person explains it: Vowels in Italian Last Names. Apparently, it's a dialect thing. The Northerners tend to drop the vowels at the end. Yay, try Pavan! It's Italian! Even though it's a variant.

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: DearQT
Originally posted by: rh71
do they always end in a vowel ? I was told by an Italian friend they mostly do, but not all. My wife thinks it is all... I need to prove her wrong, but I honestly don't know enough names to do it. Who's got some for me ?
Excellent question! I'm checking with all of my Italian bfs. They're so seeeeeeeexy.... Checking....
how many Italian bfs do you have? ;)
What can I say! ... when you've had so many of the bfs in the past, and you forget the current number. ;)
good answer :thumbsup:
i knew you liked those Italians :p

 

Snapster

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Snapster
Donadel
Budel
Buffon

Would be three I know from the top of my head. There are a few, but traditional names do end in vowels.

I have to question whether they aren't the real names...

Meaning what? Those 3 are names from Italian Football internationals.

Meaning they don't have Italian last names. There are Italians without Italian last name. For all we know Donadel came from an Irishman who moved to Italy. Buffon used to be Buffonelli but was shortened at some point. Perhaps they are even "stage names" so to speak.

And it's not like you have to be Italian to play for the Italian national team.

Ok. However, I'll tell you that those 3 players are Italian born and breed, two of them at least for a few generations, rather than argentine passport stealers. This is just semantics, but someone could have moved into Italy 10 generations ago with a non Italian name and it could now be incorporated. For example name such as Mason, Baccarin, Tonon are quite common are typical names just of the Veneto region in Italy, Mason probably isn't of Italian origin who to say the other two are. Never the less they are heavily used.

It's the same in any country. This topic was titled, Italian last names. Not 'traditional Italian origin' names. I gave a few examples of common Italian names, which was immediately shunned at. How far back is enough to draw the line at? 200 years, 500, 1000 ? I suppose any derived Italian names aren't good enough either.

Vidal: Italian Patronymic name from Vitale, popular name among Italians professing their early Christian faith.

Baldoin, Sablun, Abram,Chanaz,Pascolat,Pascot,Angelantonij,De Lutiis,De Propertis,De Vincentis,De Benedictis,De Vitis, De Thomasis,Di Acetis,De Iulius, Di Vincetiis. etc

If this was posted earlier I would've asked my Italian friend at work for more.



 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Snapster
This topic was titled, Italian last names. Not 'traditional Italian origin' names.

Then the thread is moot because someone named Smith could have immigrated from England to Italy in the 17th Century and now there is an entire clan of genuinely Italian Smiths.

So in that regard, there are obviously countless "Italian" last names that do not end in vowels even though they are actually surnames from other cultures that have been transplanted or modified. Question answered; end of thread.