IT Training - Why not use offshore schools!?

[MadRat]

The dirty little secret to offshoring is effective training costs, not necessarily wages. The IT workers can be retrained repeatedly for a single retraining session in the U.S., meaning that many offshore companies offer far better technical support than domestic companies. Partly this is due to high educational costs in the U.S. market, but ALOT of it is due to U.S. trainers being able to demand high wages and class fees. Microsoft and Cisco training is but two examples of how domestic training costs are ridiculous, but when offered overseas may fetch only a quarter the cost. If its LESS EXPENSIVE to train IT staffs in other countries, why not send our low-level staffs overseas for training?

Seems that we could stand to save money and tie up their schools with our students. In this way the top trainers are tied up by U.S. students. We can still turn offshoring into a domestic advantage if we use their "cost savings" in training against these foreign companies. The truth is that training for them has been too cheap, and sending U.S. students to tie up their schools will only shoot the costs of their own training to a higher relative cost than it is now. If America wants to stay ahead then they need the best in training. The idea of sending students abroad, to garner lower cost education, only makes sense. Seems to me that America hasn't really been trying all that hard to compete in the IT industry and this idea to send our students abroad would only help.

 

[burnedout]

Partly this is due to high educational costs in the U.S. market, but ALOT of it is due to U.S. trainers being able to demand high wages and class fees.

At private schools, yes. However, adjunct IT instructors at community colleges generally earn between $2K to $2.5K per class each semester.

In my opinion, another issue with outsourcing these types of schools are cultural differences. Of course, I've had foreign-born professors before. By and large, I don't think they are as sensitive to students as native-born professors. However, many could debate this viewpoint either way.

Finally, education is big business in America. Don't think that schools aren't saving and, at the same time, making money with online instruction.

 

[burnedout]

Related story from CNN - Students stung as computer schools close

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: burnedout
Related story from CNN - Students stung as computer schools close

hits close to home as much of massachusetts is mentioned....I have seen alot of Computer training centers go bust here along with 98% of the IT market....I consider myself both lucky and unlucky to still be involved in IT...hopefully I can someday make a move into software sales.

 

[zephyrprime]

Is domestic training so expensive? It seems to me that merely flying people to India and setting them up for room and board for a week would be super expensive,

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: MadRat
The dirty little secret to offshoring is effective training costs, not necessarily wages. The IT workers can be retrained repeatedly for a single retraining session in the U.S., meaning that many offshore companies offer far better technical support than domestic companies. Partly this is due to high educational costs in the U.S. market, but ALOT of it is due to U.S. trainers being able to demand high wages and class fees. Microsoft and Cisco training is but two examples of how domestic training costs are ridiculous, but when offered overseas may fetch only a quarter the cost. If its LESS EXPENSIVE to train IT staffs in other countries, why not send our low-level staffs overseas for training?

Seems that we could stand to save money and tie up their schools with our students. In this way the top trainers are tied up by U.S. students. We can still turn offshoring into a domestic advantage if we use their "cost savings" in training against these foreign companies. The truth is that training for them has been too cheap, and sending U.S. students to tie up their schools will only shoot the costs of their own training to a higher relative cost than it is now. If America wants to stay ahead then they need the best in training. The idea of sending students abroad, to garner lower cost education, only makes sense. Seems to me that America hasn't really been trying all that hard to compete in the IT industry and this idea to send our students abroad would only help.

OK, but to train them overseas to work overseas like in India or to come back after trained and work here? Only problem with that is that they would have to work for $15-20K to compete with the India Wages.

 

[CanOWorms]

IT (the help desk, lower programming, etc.) = burger flipping. Would you care if burger flippers were outsourced somehow? Probably not.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
IT (the help desk, lower programming, etc.) = burger flipping. Would you care if burger flippers were outsourced somehow? Probably not.

Gawd no, it's the only "Manufacturing" we've got left for crying out loud.

 

[charrison]

I guess no one cares if teachers jobs gets outsourced...

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: charrison
I guess no one cares if teachers jobs gets outsourced...

Why would anyone care, according to CAD & Co and the Bush Administration Teahers are "Worthless Terrorists" anyway.