It took a while to start my car today.

ScottyB

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Lately it has been doing some thing wierd, the car starts but putters a long time before it full starts. Then today it took me three long tires to start the car after it had been parked for about 1/2 hour. Should I be on the look out for another vehicle for some time in the near future?
 

notfred

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Please be less descriptive in your next post. The flood of pertinent information in this post, such as the included make and model of the car in question, has overflowed my brain and caused me to unlearn random information.
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: notfred
Please be less descriptive in your next post. The flood of pertinent information in this post, such as the included make and model of the car in question, has overflowed my brain and caused me to unlearn random information.

haha, It is a 1992 Ford Explorer: Eddie Beuer Edition. It has a 4.0L V-6 engine and the A/C is out on the car. The car has 185,000 miles and has been in quite a few accidents.
 

fastz28

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Lately it has been doing some thing wierd, the car starts but putters a long time before it full starts. Then today it took me three long tires to start the car after it had been parked for about 1/2 hour. Should I be on the look out for another vehicle for some time in the near future?

What do you mean "starts but putters a long time before it full starts"? Also, three long tires = three long tries?

check battery, starter, fuel delivery system before you junk it.
 

Quixfire

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Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.

So does that mean I need a new engine soon? I can get a 2 year old vehicle with 100,000 miles for $3,000 from my dad's work.
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.

So does that mean I need a new engine soon? I can get a 2 year old vehicle with 100,000 miles for $3,000 from my dad's work.
No, just fix the vacuum leaks. But that sounds like a very good deal on a used car, as long as it isn't a Ford Contour.

 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.

So does that mean I need a new engine soon? I can get a 2 year old vehicle with 100,000 miles for $3,000 from my dad's work.
No, just fix the vacuum leaks. But that sounds like a very good deal on a used car, as long as it isn't a Ford Contour.

It would be a Ford Tauras, a Dodge Stratus or a Chrysler minivan.
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.

So does that mean I need a new engine soon? I can get a 2 year old vehicle with 100,000 miles for $3,000 from my dad's work.
No, just fix the vacuum leaks. But that sounds like a very good deal on a used car, as long as it isn't a Ford Contour.

It would be a Ford Tauras, a Dodge Stratus or a Chrysler minivan.
Dude, you can get a 2001 Ford Taurus with 100K for 3K. I want one too!

 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.

So does that mean I need a new engine soon? I can get a 2 year old vehicle with 100,000 miles for $3,000 from my dad's work.
No, just fix the vacuum leaks. But that sounds like a very good deal on a used car, as long as it isn't a Ford Contour.

It would be a Ford Tauras, a Dodge Stratus or a Chrysler minivan.
Dude, you can get a 2001 Ford Taurus with 100K for 3K. I want one too!

Most of them are Station Wagons though. I might be able to get a regular one though.
 

Quixfire

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: Quixfire
Several things could be wrong, but since I worked on these vehicles here is a couple of common problems.

Weak/Bad Fuel Pump - get a fuel pressure test.

Vacuum Leak at upper plenium - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Vacuum hose broken or damage - easy to find with a can of carb cleaner

Worn plugs, if you never changed them.

MAF sensor dirty/bad - need a scanner with data stream to diagnosis this condition.

Good Luck!



I had everything checked over a few months ago and they said it had some small holes throughout the engine that were leaking. They said I wouldn't have to worry for a while though. Could that be part of the problem?
Yep, when the engine is cold fuel doesn't vaporize very well and when you introduce unmeter air, vacuum leak, it will further lean out the mixture and cause a hard starting condition.

So does that mean I need a new engine soon? I can get a 2 year old vehicle with 100,000 miles for $3,000 from my dad's work.
No, just fix the vacuum leaks. But that sounds like a very good deal on a used car, as long as it isn't a Ford Contour.

It would be a Ford Tauras, a Dodge Stratus or a Chrysler minivan.
Dude, you can get a 2001 Ford Taurus with 100K for 3K. I want one too!

Most of them are Station Wagons though. I might be able to get a regular one though.
I'd take a wagon I like wagons. :D
 

Eli

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Sheesh. Whats with this idea that because your engine is starting to have a few problems, you need a whole new engine.. or even car?

;)