it sucks not being allowed to have the administrator password for your own computer

[MrDingleDangle]

my computer has that damn worm but i cant fix it because i dont have the administrator login...

and im at a place with 12,000+ employees...who knows when the IT guys will get to me

so im sitting on another computer just waiting....damn this is boring

not to mention not being able to install software on my work computer

 

[KingNothing]

I work on a military base and they pushed the update out for that worm awhile ago. I feel for you though, my job would be significantly more annoying if I didn't have admin privileges.

 

[cpals]

Reinstall windows quick... that'll give you admin.

 

[rpberry123]

can you say backup? sure you can.......

 

[chin311]

format c:\

then youll have some rights

 

[MrDingleDangle]

its also just annoying and pointless

the other day i got a zip file and found there was no unzip program on my computer...so i had to call the guy and wait like a day before i could get the file unzipped

 

[damiano]

Originally posted by: cpals
Reinstall windows quick... that'll give you admin.

yep
plot in the cd and reinstall windows on top of your install..
you will not loose anything
(write donw all settings just in case (domain, ip...etc)
and you will then be able to give your user admin rights
or another user on the achine just in case they catch you

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: damiano

Originally posted by: cpals
Reinstall windows quick... that'll give you admin.

yep
plot in the cd and reinstall windows on top of your install..
you will not loose anything
(write donw all settings just in case (domain, ip...etc)
and you will then be able to give your user admin rights
or another user on the achine just in case they catch you

dont have a copy of the windows we are using, and its not like they would give me a copy, and not about to use a pirated one

 

[The Stigenator]

why dont you just reset the password..

put in teh windows xp/2000 cd, hit F6 immediately as it boots to let it know you want to install a driver. When it asks for the drivers, you pop in my special disk and then let it do its magic, and then reboot.. you now have admin access.

 

[dullard]

There are plenty of Windows Administrator password erasers out there. They come in quite handy. I only use them for legitimate reasons though (like when getting a used computer and you cannot get in so you have to erase the administrator password even to format the thing without hassle of removing the HD to another computer).

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: The_good_guy
why dont you just reset the password..

put in teh windows xp/2000 cd, hit F6 immediately as it boots to let it know you want to install a driver. When it asks for the drivers, you pop in my special disk and then let it do its magic, and then reboot.. you now have admin access.

That, or search google for how to find a lost password in windows or something along those lines and there are a few sites telling you how to reset all of them on your computer. You create a bootable floppy, delete a file, copy the new version over, and now you can login as Administrator without any password!

 

[gwlam12]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
its also just annoying and pointless

the other day i got a zip file and found there was no unzip program on my computer...so i had to call the guy and wait like a day before i could get the file unzipped

u couldve gotten good ol' pkunzip.exe from the old ms-dos days. its still floating around hte internet.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: gwlam12

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
its also just annoying and pointless

the other day i got a zip file and found there was no unzip program on my computer...so i had to call the guy and wait like a day before i could get the file unzipped

u couldve gotten good ol' pkunzip.exe from the old ms-dos days. its still floating around hte internet.

true...didnt think of that...and it wasnt too important so didnt try hard...

and i cant reset the admin. password, because the admin would probably get pretty mad when they found out and the mrdingledangle would be mr unemployed dingledangle

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: gwlam12

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
its also just annoying and pointless

the other day i got a zip file and found there was no unzip program on my computer...so i had to call the guy and wait like a day before i could get the file unzipped

u couldve gotten good ol' pkunzip.exe from the old ms-dos days. its still floating around hte internet.

true...didnt think of that...and it wasnt too important so didnt try hard...

and i cant reset the admin. password, because the admin would probably get pretty mad when they found out and the mrdingledangle would be mr unemployed dingledangle

Good choice, never bite the hand that feeds you. You can affectionately nibble on it, maybe even chew on it a little, but never bite it.

 

[codeyf]

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[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
my computer has that damn worm but i cant fix it because i dont have the administrator login...

and im at a place with 12,000+ employees...who knows when the IT guys will get to me

so im sitting on another computer just waiting....damn this is boring

not to mention not being able to install software on my work computer

Send a note to your boss asking them to find out why the critical security update wasn't pushed out within three weeks of its release. Put some heat on the IT people for enforcing control but not then also keeping security current.

 

[amcdonald]

Its a non-efficient system at times, but at least users have a harder time screwing their computers up.
pkunzip will work. and you would definitely get in trouble for changing the password... however if you just crack it, you could leave the same pass and still obtain admin rights.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
my computer has that damn worm but i cant fix it because i dont have the administrator login...

and im at a place with 12,000+ employees...who knows when the IT guys will get to me

so im sitting on another computer just waiting....damn this is boring

not to mention not being able to install software on my work computer

Send a note to your boss asking them to find out why the critical security update wasn't pushed out within three weeks of its release. Put some heat on the IT people for enforcing control but not then also keeping security current.

Bwahahahaa
Do you know how many patches come out? I manage 1000 PCs and it's a monstrosity to keep the entire enterprise patched. I can't imagine 12000...

 

[wyvrn]

If I was network administrator, I would not give end users administrative control of their pc's either. In fact, I would use Active Directory to push software they need and delete non-company standard software as soon as it showed up. I have seen too many cases where non-company software screwed up systems and administrators had to spend half a day fixing one damn machine. I would only give certain IT people and the VP's administrative access, and even then I would make them aware of our software policies first. It does suck in your situation, but for the good of the IT department that policy is neccessary.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Send a note to your boss asking them to find out why the critical security update wasn't pushed out within three weeks of its release. Put some heat on the IT people for enforcing control but not then also keeping security current.

Bwahahahaa
Do you know how many patches come out? I manage 1000 PCs and it's a monstrosity to keep the entire enterprise patched. I can't imagine 12000...

Yes, MS did average 2+ patches a week last year, but it's still part of the job.

Either have a strategy for pushing upfdates quickly in place, or give users the rights they need to run Windows Update.

Or in MrDingleDangle's case, have hundreds (thousands?) of computers sitting useless along with the workers who need them.

It's part of the cost of using Windws, and IT staff need to plan for it instead of waiting until after the next worm or virus brings down the company computers.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Send a note to your boss asking them to find out why the critical security update wasn't pushed out within three weeks of its release. Put some heat on the IT people for enforcing control but not then also keeping security current.

Bwahahahaa
Do you know how many patches come out? I manage 1000 PCs and it's a monstrosity to keep the entire enterprise patched. I can't imagine 12000...

Yes, MS did average 2+ patches a week last year, but it's still part of the job.

Either have a strategy for pushing upfdates quickly in place, or give users the rights they need to run Windows Update.

Or in MrDingleDangle's case, have hundreds (thousands?) of computers sitting useless along with the workers who need them.

It's part of the cost of using Windws, and IT staff need to plan for it instead of waiting until after the next worm or virus brings down the company computers.

well i figure since i am in a hospital and my group is not treating patients right now, they are probably having a hell of a time getting all the computers that are needed for patients back up as soon as possible

it just sucks

 

[Stark]

so join the IT dept!

imagine trying deal with a few hundred people trying to install every piece of spyware on the internet. it's not a fun task.

Believe me, you don't want to see how your network would look if everyone had admin rights.

 

[FiLeZz]

I would Say 90% of the people should not have Admin rights on there box.. It Takes more time to fix things then to install approved software for people.
It may piss you off to not have admin rights.. But such are the work roles.

 

[Jzero]

Yes, MS did average 2+ patches a week last year, but it's still part of the job.

Either have a strategy for pushing upfdates quickly in place, or give users the rights they need to run Windows Update.

Or in MrDingleDangle's case, have hundreds (thousands?) of computers sitting useless along with the workers who need them.

It's part of the cost of using Windws, and IT staff need to plan for it instead of waiting until after the next worm or virus brings down the company computers.

Get back to me when you've actually done this for a living. Believe me, if an IT department was ever given unlimited resources, this would never happen, but when you pitch a patch management software to the president that costs $15000 (and that's for only 1000 licenses) and he says he'd rather take his chances there's not a whole lot more you can do.

Sure, in Windows 2000 I have Software Update Services that I can enforce with Group Policy, but then it costs $$$ to upgrade all of the remaining NT4 clients, so even SUS isn't going to save me.

The bottle neck is not the IT department.

 

[NogginBoink]

MrDingleDangle, I feel for you, but I think you've misdiagnosed your problem.

Your problem isn't that you don't have admin rights to your box, your problem is that the IT staff at your company is incompetent.

Do they use either SMS or SUS to push patches to machines? If not, perhaps you could find a tactful way to educate them about these two products.