Originally posted by: TuxDave
The only way to test whether if statement about something is objective or subjective requires rigorous testing.
All statements are partially objective (i.e. they exist), because they derive themselves from previously existing energy. Because to say otherwise is a contradiction. Therefore before a statement is tested, it exists as a part of reality,
but it exists as a description of some other part of reality. A false statement still exists objectively, but the pattern that description contains simply does not match, it does not mean it is subjective, since the false pattern was derived from reality itself (reality maps to reality, partially or wholly). i.e. something can be partially true.
You can't detect a non-existent thing, even a subjective experience, must exist in some way as an objective physical event.
Observer A is experiencing a "subjective" physically objective event (experience)
Observer B actually know the objective physical events that is causing him to misinterpret the events.
But both observer A and Observer B are derived from pre-existing objective reality C, therefore each observer and everything derived from both, inherits and derives itself from C. So they must always have
part of C with them. Else the whole shenanigans collapses.
Anything that exists, must by definition exist in some partial way, because it is all derived from the same existence... someone has a hallucination, the actual physical events of that hallucination exist, and so does that persons experience, but he can't read (interpret) the information of the experience unless that information physically objective exists, and he derives his statement from the former objectively existing energy that is causing the occurance.
Lastly we are scientists by default (in a partial way), our testing equipment 'external' to our minds is merely a mental prosthetic, we do science with our mind, our tools are merely prosthetics.... we all must be scientists in some basic way or else we couldn't think, navigate, or function in pre-scientific times. That means our minds must have some access to objective reality,
else we couldn't function or make decisions, period. We must have some way to automatically to determine some of what is objective in the world, without scientific method, else we could not navigate, think, or do anything. i.e. without logic we can't have even a single thought.
All science reduces to logic in the end...
logic (countable and uncountable; plural logics)
1. A method of human thought that involves thinking in a linear, step-by-step manner about how a problem can be solved.
Logic is the basis of many principles including the scientific method.