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BoberFett

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Bober every single Republican voted for fast track except Rand Paul and some other guy. Acting like a few Democrats that represent trade hubs jumping ship is not exactly the whole party selling out. You are correct that our elected officials are disconnected from voters because the majority of all voters D or R are again more trade agreements.

OK, so the Republicans are for it. As the Democrats around here routinely tell us, Republicans hate America, hate the middle class, etc., etc.

Fine. I'll concede to that. Republicans are evil.

Now with that out of the way Jhhnn needs to tell us why the Democrats are evil and hate America. Either Obama hates America for pushing the TPP, or Hillary hates America for being against the TPP.

Mr. Cheerleader needs to come clean. Is he actually concerned for this country, or is all of his wailing and gnashing for teeth about Republicans just party politics?

No more deflection. Is Obama awful or is Hillary awful?
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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Bober every single Republican voted for fast track except Rand Paul and some other guy. Acting like a few Democrats that represent trade hubs jumping ship is not exactly the whole party selling out. You are correct that our elected officials are disconnected from voters because the majority of all voters D or R are again more trade agreements.
It wouldn't have even existed if Obama didn't want it to.
 

1prophet

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Well, if you're going to tear down Dems then you need to understand the alternative.

Currently, that's people who don't have the nuts to stand up to the radicals in their own party who want to tear down the Govt of the People, create a power vacuum that multinational corporatism & Christian Fund-a-Mental-Cases will gladly fill.


False choice that has led to the demise of Unions and the middle class, vote for me and lose a little or vote for the other guy and lose a lot,

over time a little becomes alot and then you have left is a lot of nothing for the middle class while the 1% have both D&R in their back pockets along with whatever loopholes, legislation and free trade agreements they want.
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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OK, so the Republicans are for it. As the Democrats around here routinely tell us, Republicans hate America, hate the middle class, etc., etc.

Fine. I'll concede to that. Republicans are evil.

Now with that out of the way Jhhnn needs to tell us why the Democrats are evil and hate America. Either Obama hates America for pushing the TPP, or Hillary hates America for being against the TPP.

Mr. Cheerleader needs to come clean. Is he actually concerned for this country, or is all of his wailing and gnashing for teeth about Republicans just party politics?

No more deflection. Is Obama awful or is Hillary awful?
This is that strange power of bias that people can't seem to overcome.

It's an interesting stance cause if you can't look at your own faults how do you ever fix them. But I don't think lemmings care they just dump off the cliff.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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False choice that has led to the demise of Unions and the middle class, vote for me and lose a little or vote for the other guy and lose a lot,

over time a little becomes alot and then you have left is a lot of nothing for the middle class while the 1% have both D&R in their back pockets along with whatever loopholes, legislation and free trade agreements they want.
Agreed. If your votes automatically belong to one party, then that party has no need to even consider your best interests beyond what is required to remain perceived as ever so slightly better than the other party.
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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Agreed. If your votes automatically belong to one party, then that party has no need to even consider your best interests beyond what is required to remain perceived as ever so slightly better than the other party.
QFT

It is nice to know there are still a handful of people on earth who get this.
 
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**clarification** I meant to say the majority of all voter either D or R are against more trade deals. I find it amazing that only a few Politicians talk against the TPP, many more just don't talk about it. We know it has a 2/3 majority supporting it how come nobody talks about the great things the TPP deal will do?