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Meghan54

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This isn't news. No one questioned for a second that Russia attempted to play a part in the election. They attempt to play parts in elections all across the world particularly in European countries as well for those of you that continue to be uninformed and ignorant.

The debate topic wasn't that Russia meddled - it's the part of Trump colluding WITH them, as in... the equivalency of having weekly status calls with Russian spys to get insider info of the opponents, give them information, etc... And that... has been debunked. Derrrrrrrp.
Wrong...but you take great pleasure in lying, so there’s that.
 

cytg111

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This isn't news. No one questioned for a second that Russia attempted to play a part in the election. They attempt to play parts in elections all across the world particularly in European countries as well for those of you that continue to be uninformed and ignorant.

The debate topic wasn't that Russia meddled - it's the part of Trump colluding WITH them, as in... the equivalency of having weekly status calls with Russian spys to get insider info of the opponents, give them information, etc... And that... has been debunked. Derrrrrrrp.

Wtf?
 
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Meghan54

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I don't actually think he's lying. I don't think he knows any better. He's ignorant but his ego won't allow him to get past it. It's kinda sad, actually.
I actually do think he knows much better than he lets on. In another thread, he stomped his little feet and plugged his ears when it was explained to him that the House Democrats were the ones with the second stimulus proposal and the Dems had even offered to scale back their requests in an attempt to get the Senate Republican to get off their asses and actually address the House bill. Nope...he kept up his lying when, even being shown proof he was incorrect when he maintained it was the Senate Republican advancing the Dem bill, and the House was just ignoring the Senate’s overtures.

Of course, he had it ass backwards and it took days to get him to admit the Republican were the obstructionists, not the House Dems, even after reams of proof were showered down upon him. That’s just lying and is his habit. sadly. He has no need to see truth, just lies.
 

hal2kilo

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Doesn't this report step on the upcoming Durham report. Proves the FBI investigation was warranted.
Don't you see why Trump's all upset about people voting by mail now? He's got this bag of dirty tricks he's got perfectly timed, and if people vote now by mail (at least according to current polling) he loses. That means he once again, has wasted government resources on this fake Durham report just like the "Get Ukraine to lie about Biden by threatening to withhold funding" debacle. Folks, wake the fuck up, Trump been trying to steal this election since he was elected.
 

Stryke1983

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I actually do think he knows much better than he lets on. In another thread, he stomped his little feet and plugged his ears when it was explained to him that the House Democrats were the ones with the second stimulus proposal and the Dems had even offered to scale back their requests in an attempt to get the Senate Republican to get off their asses and actually address the House bill. Nope...he kept up his lying when, even being shown proof he was incorrect when he maintained it was the Senate Republican advancing the Dem bill, and the House was just ignoring the Senate’s overtures.

Of course, he had it ass backwards and it took days to get him to admit the Republican were the obstructionists, not the House Dems, even after reams of proof were showered down upon him. That’s just lying and is his habit. sadly. He has no need to see truth, just lies.

Did he ever actually admit it was the Republicans? I gave him some numbers that were public information and disproved his claim plus I asked him for a source on his but never got a response.
 
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cytg111

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This isn't news. No one questioned for a second that Russia attempted to play a part in the election. They attempt to play parts in elections all across the world particularly in European countries as well for those of you that continue to be uninformed and ignorant.

The debate topic wasn't that Russia meddled - it's the part of Trump colluding WITH them, as in... the equivalency of having weekly status calls with Russian spys to get insider info of the opponents, give them information, etc... And that... has been debunked. Derrrrrrrp.

Why do you think Rubio explicitly states that DJT did not collude with Russia? Cause Stone acted on his own of course. Its the kind of character that warrants a pardon dontyouthink?


You want me to hook you up with some more collusion? Some Manafort goodies maybe? Or is your google functioning again?
 

Jhhnn

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This isn't news. No one questioned for a second that Russia attempted to play a part in the election. They attempt to play parts in elections all across the world particularly in European countries as well for those of you that continue to be uninformed and ignorant.

The debate topic wasn't that Russia meddled - it's the part of Trump colluding WITH them, as in... the equivalency of having weekly status calls with Russian spys to get insider info of the opponents, give them information, etc... And that... has been debunked. Derrrrrrrp.
Gawd. It means something when your campaign chairman is thick with a Russian intelligence agent. It means something when Roger Stone gets Wikileaks to dump the fruits of Russian hacking at his command. It means something when you campaign meets with Russian operatives to get dirt on your opponent & claim you didn't actually get any. It means something when you attack the FBI for trying to protect you from people who've been compromised.
 

nickqt

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Gawd. It means something when your campaign chairman is thick with a Russian intelligence agent. It means something when Roger Stone gets Wikileaks to dump the fruits of Russian hacking at his command. It means something when you campaign meets with Russian operatives to get dirt on your opponent & claim you didn't actually get any. It means something when you attack the FBI for trying to protect you from people who've been compromised.
If there aren't any publicly released Trump Campaign power point lectures with Donald Trump and Putin's signatures on a line stating they agree to collude, there is no collusion.
 

fskimospy

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This isn't news. No one questioned for a second that Russia attempted to play a part in the election. They attempt to play parts in elections all across the world particularly in European countries as well for those of you that continue to be uninformed and ignorant.

The debate topic wasn't that Russia meddled - it's the part of Trump colluding WITH them, as in... the equivalency of having weekly status calls with Russian spys to get insider info of the opponents, give them information, etc... And that... has been debunked. Derrrrrrrp.
Look who didn’t read the report. Lol.

Don’t you get tired of embarrassing yourself?
 

Pohemi

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Look who didn’t read the report. Lol.

Don’t you get tired of embarrassing yourself?
You would think that, wouldn't you? But no...nothing but shitbag lies and projection every time he posts. He's giving Trump a run for his money.
 

theeedude

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You gotta give it to Putin. To inflict so much damage to the US for so little money, this Trumps 9/11 by a country mile.
 

woolfe9998

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This isn't news. No one questioned for a second that Russia attempted to play a part in the election. They attempt to play parts in elections all across the world particularly in European countries as well for those of you that continue to be uninformed and ignorant.

The debate topic wasn't that Russia meddled - it's the part of Trump colluding WITH them, as in... the equivalency of having weekly status calls with Russian spys to get insider info of the opponents, give them information, etc... And that... has been debunked. Derrrrrrrp.

What? Did you read the fuckin' report authored by republicans? It says that the Russians not only meddled, but did it specifically to help Trump, and that his campaign willingly collaborated with them. The only thing it says on the other side is that there is no evidence of a crime.
 

ivwshane

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I know you guys think its a replay of a bad game, and just a reiterates already established information... I think its a nuclear bomb shell. Its the final chapter to the Mueller report! And its everything everybody was afraid it would be ... and there is no Barr or Rosenstein “to land the plane”. I think Pelosi will have to come up with some damn good reasons as to why not get impeachment rolling again. I get it, it may be contra productive, but would they be doing their jobs if they dont?

It’s a nuclear bombshell in the same way as the nuclear bombs in bikini atoll. That is it was devastating and yet didn’t affect anyone in any significant way.
 

ivwshane

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Gawd. It means something when your campaign chairman is thick with a Russian intelligence agent. It means something when Roger Stone gets Wikileaks to dump the fruits of Russian hacking at his command. It means something when you campaign meets with Russian operatives to get dirt on your opponent & claim you didn't actually get any. It means something when you attack the FBI for trying to protect you from people who've been compromised.

And it means something when you pardon the guy who was instrumental in all of that!
 
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What? Did you read the fuckin' report authored by republicans? It says that the Russians not only meddled, but did it specifically to help Trump, and that his campaign willingly collaborated with them. The only thing it says on the other side is that there is no evidence of a crime.
Then go ahead and quote for me in the article where they had weekly status calls or something with the Russians as they worked side by side.

Go on. Do tell.
 

fskimospy

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Then go ahead and quote for me in the article where they had weekly status calls or something with the Russians as they worked side by side.

Go on. Do tell.
How about the one where their campaign chairman regularly gave information to Russian intelligence agents and then lied to US law enforcement about their collaboration?

Do tell what you think about that. Lol.

edit: this is why you should have read the report, dummy.
 

ivwshane

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Then go ahead and quote for me in the article where they had weekly status calls or something with the Russians as they worked side by side.

Go on. Do tell.

This is why people think your fucking dumb.

It’s covered in the first couple of paragraphs of the article you clearly didn’t bother reading.

The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence alleged Manafort collaborated with Russians, including oligarch Oleg Deripaska and “Russian intelligence officer” Konstantin Kilimnik, before, during, and after the election.
As Russian military intelligence and WikiLeaks released the hacked documents, the report said Trump’s campaign sought advance notice, devised messaging strategies to amplify them “and encouraged further theft of information and ... leaks.”

“The Trump campaign publicly undermined the attribution of the hack-and-leak campaign to Russia and was indifferent to whether it and WikiLeaks were furthering a Russian election interference effort,” the report added.
 
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ivwshane

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From the actual report:

U) Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska, and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik or with whom Kilimnik further shared that information. The Committee had limited insight into Kilimnik's communications with Manafort and into Kilimnik's communications with other individuals connected to Russian influence operations, all o f whom used communications security practices. The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election.

 

Jhhnn

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It means something when your national security adviser is compromised by the Russians before you're sworn into office. It means something when a GOP led Senate committee calls on the DoJ to begin criminal investigations of your campaign personnel for lying to Congress. It means something when your AG has to recuse himself from investigating Russian interference after lying to Congress about contacts with the Russian ambassador. It means something when the assistant AG has to appoint a special counsel to investigate after you fire the head of the FBI for investigating. it means something when the special counsel cites numerous instances of you obstructing his efforts.

Except in Trumpistan, where it's all just a nasty deep state conspiracy to bring down the Precious, God's chosen instrument to lead America.
 

A///

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I have a suspicion Republican Senators know the President will likely lose so now it is their chance to come clean.
This report could have easily been stone walled but here we are with its release.
I'd focus on Mitch McConnell and anything he does from now until November 3rd. If there is anyone who knows everything of how things will play out, it will be that man. I think some long time Republican senators called out POTUS this week or last and I had to take a double take at the headline. Maybe the smart ones are sensing a change in the tide?
 
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How about the one where their campaign chairman regularly gave information to Russian intelligence agents and then lied to US law enforcement about their collaboration?

Do tell what you think about that. Lol.

edit: this is why you should have read the report, dummy.

Lol - you gotta love the mental gymnastics you guys do to connect ONE GUY to an ENTIRE election team.

The two are not the same.

And "Russian oligarchs" are no different than "I attended a meeting with some guys that said they had money". It's nothing remotely similar to having a meeting with the Russian government.

It's the same as accusing Bill Gates of meeting with Jeffery Epstein and thus concluding that he raped underage kids.


The level of conspiracy theory shit you guys get into is laughable.
 

ivwshane

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Lol - you gotta love the mental gymnastics you guys do to connect ONE GUY to an ENTIRE election team.

The two are not the same.

And "Russian oligarchs" are no different than "I attended a meeting with some guys that said they had money". It's nothing remotely similar to having a meeting with the Russian government.

It's the same as accusing Bill Gates of meeting with Jeffery Epstein and thus concluding that he raped underage kids.


The level of conspiracy theory shit you guys get into is laughable.

Another display of your massive ignorance! Good job cementing “the dumbest poster” label.

You were given multiple examples from the article and from the report itself and yet you still double down.
 
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