With the launch of new platforms that are no faster than the old, and new processors that are just overclocked versions of the old, the next few months will be a very grand time to buy. with Nforce 4 out, Nforce 3 motherboards like the chaintec VNF3-250 will come down even farther in price; With new CPU's like the FX55 and the athlon 64 4000, good old chips like the 2800 might just hit the $100 mark. With the push for PCI Express, good old AGP ocerclockers like the 9800 pro (or softmodded 9800SE) can be turned out as low range parts. yes, and all in time for the holidays. happy Overclocking!
It is a Grand time to be an Overclocker
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i just hope people aren't pursuaded the new stuf when all you are looking at is 5% performance increase and the same overclockability..... i wonder if there will ever be a day when a company only launches one part, and the clock speed is determined by the cooling solution the end costomer puts on it.
Then they wouldn't make as much money, releasing only 1 processor.
That may be possible if they went with about 3 in each category of low, medium, high.
256, 512, 1 meg size caches, maybe?
That may be possible if they went with about 3 in each category of low, medium, high.
256, 512, 1 meg size caches, maybe?
This is how I feel about my A64 3200+ and the FX-53... there really is not that much difference, and that CPU is 4x the prirce... kinda makes me sick to think ppl buy that... but I guess some people just want to have THE BEST and that's it! oh well the 3200+ is the best CPU amongst everyone I know personally so I mustnt be doing too much wrong!
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I would go with the 3000+, just for the 10x multiplier.
Call me crazy, but I like the idea of an even 250FSB, LDTx3/4, 2.5GHz.
The price difference right now between the 2800+ and the 3000+ is about $12.
Call me crazy, but I like the idea of an even 250FSB, LDTx3/4, 2.5GHz.
The price difference right now between the 2800+ and the 3000+ is about $12.
that is funny, most of us do want even multipliers, and even FSB's. hell, i was ready to spend a ton of money on a DFI 250 UT motherboard just because it could get 300MHz FSB. i had it all planned to watercool a Athlon 64 3200 Mobile and get a 10x 300 setup for a 3GHz comp. those days are over, and if a Chaintec VNF3-250 can reach an FSB of 275 and max out a 2800+ at 2.475 GHz, and for a lot less than a DFI motherboard setup, then i am going to be totally happy with that.
currently the Retail 2800 is $141 and the Retail 3000 is $160: 25MHz isn't worth $20 in my book.
currently the Retail 2800 is $141 and the Retail 3000 is $160: 25MHz isn't worth $20 in my book.
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If you're overclocking, why even buy a retail processor? Your warranty is bunk once you do.
And who wants to overclock using the stock heatsink anyways?
$131 for a OEM 2800+; $143 for a OEM 3000+. $12 for that extra multiplier is worth it, especially since it's easier to find RAM that can run 250FSB versus 275FSB (1:1).
And who wants to overclock using the stock heatsink anyways?
$131 for a OEM 2800+; $143 for a OEM 3000+. $12 for that extra multiplier is worth it, especially since it's easier to find RAM that can run 250FSB versus 275FSB (1:1).
SLI will be a notable increase in performance, but considering you would have to buy two 6600GT's and a motherboard that will probably retail for $200, i would stick to the old stuf. i want to see a menchamrk of a 6600GT SLI system that is not from Nvidia, personally. i would also like to see that system parred against a 2800+/ 9800pro system. both of them overclocked to thier max.
I didn't realize the 3000 was down to $12. i don't think that you need to run your ram at 1:1 anymore with the athlon 64 setup, so that doesn't really matter.
as for buying retail, i think it is a really good idea for the following reasons:
1: i have RMA'ed two chips that where retail and overclocked (back when i was a noob)
2: you can always use the stock heatsink/ fan for something else (like a video card core, for example)
3: i have heard about several people that got oem cores based on the clawhammer core when they where advertised as newcastle.
Originally posted by: Mik3y
i'll stick to the 90nm 3000+ anyday. its easy to OC and gets at 2.6ghz on air!
You said it all for me I do believe. The 939 is close to eliminating the 754 as the mainstream chipset for the AMD64. Now that you can get a cheaper processor 3000+. I can't wait to watercool the 90nm 3000+ or 3500+. I know the 3500+ is more but it is in my budget.
the 90 nm core is way to over rated. it has a much smaller die size, and the 3000 130nm chip can reach 2.6GHz on air. the 90nm 3000 chip costs $200, and a decent 939 motherboard costs $120 at least. save your money, don't buy like and idiot.
whoah, and it has the Nforce 250GB chipset... lemme read some reviews... we may just have the next best value board.
Does anyone know anything about this 8kda3j board from epox? how far does it overclock, does it have good voltage controls, ect.
i have not been able to easily find any official overclocking results with the Epox 8kda3j.... would it be safe to assume that it has the same or better as it's RAID equiped big brother, the 8KDA3+?
all further posts about the Epox 8KDA3j should go in this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...2453&enterthread=y
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