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MtnMan

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I didnt know where else to put this...It seems Trump says something more outlandish every day, but this takes the cake.

Donald Trump calls for the 'termination' of the United States Constitution over 2020 loss (msn.com)

"So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,"
 

eelw

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No he’s right. Scrape the 300 year old parchment paper. Keep 1A. Just make sure people understand this is government can’t restrict not private businesses. 2A, restrict to handguns. Voting, rebalance state’s voting power and make all popular vote, not a set of electorates
 
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ch33zw1z

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No he’s right. Scrape the 300 year old parchment paper. Keep 1A. Just make sure people understand this is government can’t restrict not private businesses. 2A, restrict to handguns. Voting, rebalance state’s voting power and make all popular vote, not a set of electorates

nah, restrict gun ownership to those part of a state run militia, monthly weekends, physical fitness requirements, and yearly mental health evaluations.

Move voting back to popular votes.

besides, trump is only saying what the GOP voters are actually voting for, wittingly or not. I mean, I haven’t met a GOP voter IRL that actually knows whats In the constitution.
 

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Remember how many times Trump talked about following the Constitution? Even took an oath to defend it. Here he is saying to not follow the Constitution.
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blackangst1

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No he’s right. Scrape the 300 year old parchment paper. Keep 1A. Just make sure people understand this is government can’t restrict not private businesses. 2A, restrict to handguns. Voting, rebalance state’s voting power and make all popular vote, not a set of electorates
I disagree. 2A shouldnt be restricted further.
 

blackangst1

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Yawn, classic dipshit post by blackangst


I know, it’s a lot or words, but maybe read it.
Your link said this:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Which I agree with. Especially the shall not be infringed part. We have too many restrictions on guns as it is. Youll not convince me otherwise so dont bother. Im a purist.

Sorrynotsorry.
 

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Your link said this:



Which I agree with. Especially the shall not be infringed part. We have too many restrictions on guns as it is. Youll not convince me otherwise so dont bother. Im a purist.

Sorrynotsorry.

no, you’re not a “purist”.

there’s not much (some states are) well regulated about the state of our country WRT gun violence.

if you’re not open to the text of the constitution, that’s a you problem. Don’t pretend like you care when someone like Trump, who still holds sway over a huge portion of voters, doesn’t care for it.

nice how it’s not-especially the “well regulated militia” part.

I am jacks complete lack of surprise
 

blackangst1

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no, you’re not a “purist”.

there’s not much (some states are) well regulated about the state of our country WRT gun violence.

if you’re not open to the text of the constitution, that’s a you problem. Don’t pretend like you care when someone like Trump, who still holds sway over a huge portion of voters, doesn’t care for it.

nice how it’s not-especially the “well regulated militia” part.

I am jacks complete lack of surprise
Whatever you say. Im not going to convince you to agree with me, and youre not going to convince me to agree with you. So there we are. All thats left is name calling and personal insults so fire away.

And yes. Im a purist. I think most gun restrictions that exist go too far and should be overturned.
 

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Whatever you say. Im not going to convince you to agree with me, and youre not going to convince me to agree with you. So there we are. All thats left is name calling and personal insults so fire away.

And yes. Im a purist. I think most gun restrictions that exist go too far and should be overturned.

I think 98% of people can use guns responsibly. 1.8% are criminals. 0.2% are nutjobs.

But its the 0.2% that go around and commit mass shootings because they can't control their emotions that worries me the most!

You might be a purist but at this point you have to realize that to keep the families of those 98% safe.. the 0.2 need to surrender their weapons!

We might have taken care of criminals not having access to fire arms but we've not taken care of the nutjobs!
 

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I think 98% of people can use guns responsibly. 1.8% are criminals. 0.2% are nutjobs.

But its the 0.2% that go around and commit mass shootings because they can't control their emotions that worries me the most!

You might be a purist but at this point you have to realize that to keep the families of those 98% safe.. the 0.2 need to surrender their weapons!

We might have taken care of criminals not having access to fire arms but we've not taken care of the nutjobs!

And how do you propose to do that?
 

ch33zw1z

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I think 98% of people can use guns responsibly. 1.8% are criminals. 0.2% are nutjobs.

But its the 0.2% that go around and commit mass shootings because they can't control their emotions that worries me the most!

You might be a purist but at this point you have to realize that to keep the families of those 98% safe.. the 0.2 need to surrender their weapons!

We might have taken care of criminals not having access to fire arms but we've not taken care of the nutjobs!

lol he’s not a purist. A purist wouldn’t be emphasizing the part of the 2A that makes his feels all tingly while ignoring the beginning
 

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And how do you propose to do that?

Red flag laws.

You know the kind of people that talk about intentional violence, lashing out at others.

At some point you have to say you're not stupid if you get bad feelings from someone based on their intentions and vocal claims.

I don't completely agree with Kirsten Sinema but she's right on the red flag laws.
 

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Whatever you say. Im not going to convince you to agree with me, and youre not going to convince me to agree with you. So there we are. All thats left is name calling and personal insults so fire away.

And yes. Im a purist. I think most gun restrictions that exist go too far and should be overturned.

You’re welcome to lie to yourself all you want.
 

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Whatever you say. Im not going to convince you to agree with me, and youre not going to convince me to agree with you. So there we are. All thats left is name calling and personal insults so fire away.

And yes. Im a purist. I think most gun restrictions that exist go too far and should be overturned.
What restrictions go too far?

Why is someone mature enough to start owning a gun at 18 when most states don’t consider ready for them to drink until 21?

Shouldn’t one be required to show one is capable to handling a gun before being able to get one? Why is it necessary to get a drivers license but not gun owners?

As “a purist” shouldn’t you go back to your musket? When are you going to demand a drone or nuke because muh rights muh freedoms.

And please actually answer these questions instead of your normal glossing over it
 
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What restrictions go too far?

Why is someone mature enough to start owning a gun at 18 when most states don’t consider ready for them to drink until 21?

Shouldn’t one be required to show one is capable to handling a gun before being able to get one? Why is it necessary to get a drivers license but not gun owners?

As “a purist” shouldn’t you go back to your musket? When are you going to demand a drone or nuke because muh rights muh freedoms.

And please actually answer these questions instead of your normal glossing over it

Why cant you just have ALL the guns in Texas and then sane gun laws everywhere else? Then anyone who is emotional attached at the hip to his glock can stay/move to Texas... Concentrate the problem to one state.
 

blackangst1

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What restrictions go too far?

All of them.

Why is someone mature enough to start owning a gun at 18 when most states don’t consider ready for them to drink until 21?

Age of consent issues.

Shouldn’t one be required to show one is capable to handling a gun before being able to get one? Why is it necessary to get a drivers license but not gun owners?

Im FOR training, but against firearm type. I think it should be OK to own a rocket launcher.

As “a purist” shouldn’t you go back to your musket? When are you going to demand a drone or nuke because muh rights muh freedoms.

wut?
 

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All of them.

Im FOR training, but against firearm type. I think it should be OK to own a rocket launcher.
I agree. Most people will say, “what about accidents with high powered weaponry”, but I’ll just point out that’s what we have a legal system for.

So if for example my mortar shot goes awry hits your house, kills your family and paralyzes you for life, you or your estate would have recourse through the courts for damages from my mistake while we all got to enjoy our un infringed 2nd amendment rights.
 
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