Issue with EMI interference in passive crossover

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Black88GTA

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So I have a bit of a weird problem. I was working on a stereo install in my car today (didn't finish) and went to pick up something from home depot. I started driving and noticed that I'm getting a loud alternator whine noise from the right front tweeter.

But here's the thing - it's not connected to anything! The only components currently connected to it are the passive crossover, the woofer, and a line out from the crossover. The line out is terminated in an Alpine PDX amp speaker plug, which is not connected to anything, and resting on the trunk carpet. The left front tweeter is currently sitting in the same state, but does not produce any noise.

The only thing I can think of that may be causing it is that there is a large power run down the affected side, which runs close to the passive crossover (within 1 - 2 inches). The crossover HAS to be the source of the problem, as nothing else is connected to the speaker emitting the whining. Driver's side is setup exactly the same way, and has zero noise coming from it - the major difference is, there are no thick power cables going down that side.

Relocating the passive crossover away from these lines would be very difficult (they go down the entire passenger side), and re-routing these power cables is not an option. I found EMI shielding tape on Ebay - my thoughts were to get some and wrap it around the power cables where they pass near the crossover unit. Don't have any experience with this stuff though - I want to know if it at least has a chance of working before trying it out.

Has anyone used this tape? Anyone have any other ideas?
 

Rubycon

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Any solid metal "foil" type tape whether aluminum or copper - will provide adequate EMI shielding IF applied AND bonded correctly. Copper has the advantage as it's easy to tin a corner and solder a drain wire to.

I'm no expert on the hostile mobile environment but if you're getting noise from a driver just connected to passive components you definitely have lots of noise to deal with. If this gets into an amplifier your noise floor is going to be very high.

Best bet is to run the cabling through a metal jacketed flexible line and bond both ends securely to the vehicle chassis.
 

Black88GTA

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Originally posted by: Rubycon
Any solid metal "foil" type tape whether aluminum or copper - will provide adequate EMI shielding IF applied AND bonded correctly. Copper has the advantage as it's easy to tin a corner and solder a drain wire to.

I'm no expert on the hostile mobile environment but if you're getting noise from a driver just connected to passive components you definitely have lots of noise to deal with. If this gets into an amplifier your noise floor is going to be very high.

Best bet is to run the cabling through a metal jacketed flexible line and bond both ends securely to the vehicle chassis.

By "applied and bonded correctly" do you mean that it has to be wrapped around with no seams / gaps in the tape? The cables are pretty accessible where they pass by the crossover, so that shouldn't be a problem. As for the noise source - there are what looks like 2x 4 gauge cables and an 8 gauge cable all running through this area. These are factory-installed power lines running straight to one of the batteries, so I don't want to mess with them too much.

I don't think a pass through conduit type shield would work in this case because it would be a major bitch to undo the cable connections at the battery, cut off the battery terminals, pull the cables through, untie all of the harnesses, etc. Unless there was something out there similar to those split flexible plastic conduits you can get and just slip over the wires, but I can't seem to find anything like that.
 

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Yes proper means no seams whatsoever and you must have the shield extend beyond the area of noise.
 

Eli

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ElectroMagnetic Interference interference? Are you from the Department of Redundancy Department? ;)
 

Rubycon

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Originally posted by: Eli
ElectroMagnetic Interference interference? Are you from the Department of Redundancy Department? ;)

Probably posted this after getting money out of the ATM machine. ;)
 
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