Israel's "roof knocking" technology

[HTFOff]

http://www.businessinsider.com/here...of-warning-before-bombing-gaza-targets-2014-7

Amazing technology.

TL;DR - israel drops a small missile on roof as a warning, 15 minutes later, boom goes the dynamite.

I'm not sure if 15 minutes is enough for granny though. Might have to just toss her out the window.

Video

 

[Pulsar]

Genius.

So... if you let Hamas store munitions, or if you let them launch from your house, we're not going to kill you. We're going to warn you, let you evacuate, then blow the fuck out of your house.

Guess who WON'T be letting Hamas launch from that location again?

Outstanding.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Humm, last report I saw it was 1 minute until drop.

15 sounds like a lot of time to at least grab some stuff. 1 would basically mean all you could get out would be yourself and others in the building.

 

[kage69]

http://www.businessinsider.com/here...of-warning-before-bombing-gaza-targets-2014-7

Amazing technology.

TL;DR - israel drops a small missile on roof as a warning, 15 minutes later, boom goes the dynamite.

I'm not sure if 15 minutes is enough for granny though. Might have to just toss her out the window.

Video

Uhh, help me out here. Where's the amazing part?

It's a marker with a small charge in it; pounds on everyone's door at the same time with one message: "Leave now."

And?

Not exactly a sensor fused weapon or rail gun. I am disappoint.

Unless I'm missing something this is a story about tactics, not technology. Also, we don't really use TNT anymore for munitions, and if you check out your own story the building was brought down later by 2 other separate bombs dropped by 2 F-16s.

Daylight bombing on stationary targets by IDF pilots (who aren't contending with real opponents or AA either) isn't exactly difficult, and that's without the use of lasers and GPS. What is technologically impressive about using a nerfed 70mm rocket to deliver an avoidable message to the inhabitants of the building?

I imagine in the past the IDF was confronted with building inhabitants who didn't have phones, or hadn't been outside and seen the fliers blowing around in the street.

 

[MongGrel]

That and telephone messages and twitter etc.

Basically move, this place gonna be toast soon.

 

[IronWing]

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

 

[cabri]

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

Does Hamas notify in advance?
Does Hamas location munitions in civilian areas?

When the Palestinians decide that launching rockets will not be worth the destruction, they will stop launching and the retaliation from Israel will cease.

 

[Pulsar]

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

If they were targeting civilians, they certainly wouldn't be giving them warnings before dropping bombs. Nice try though....

 

[rudder]

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

Israel targets launch sites. The iron dome radar picks up the rocket launches. Maybe Hamas should rethink its plan of using civilians as shields for their weapons.

 

[cabri]

Israel targets launch sites. The iron dome radar picks up the rocket launches. Maybe Hamas should rethink its plan of using civilians as shields for their weapons.

And give up the PR advantage to the blind masses?

 

[CitizenKain]

If they were targeting civilians, they certainly wouldn't be giving them warnings before dropping bombs. Nice try though....

There are 4 children who say otherwise, but I'm sure you think they deserved it.

 

[PingviN]

Genius.

So... if you let Hamas store munitions, or if you let them launch from your house, we're not going to kill you. We're going to warn you, let you evacuate, then blow the fuck out of your house.

Guess who WON'T be letting Hamas launch from that location again?

Outstanding.

Do you really think Hamas needs permission to store rockets anywhere they please?

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

Hamas basically only targets civilians, but they're the underdog so that makes it okay? If Hamas leaders stopped living in highly populated areas, stopped launching rockets from highly populated areas and stopped storing their rockets in highly populated areas, do you think there'd still be civilian casualties?

 

[Zorba]

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

War sucks. Maybe someday people will figure that out and stop starting them.

 

[Jaskalas]

Israel targets civilians but lets them know ahead of time so that makes it okay.

Civilians do not have mortars or rockets. Anything at those locations SHOULD be decimated.

You should be grateful that Israel is such an advanced country, in WW2 we'd have to carpet bomb entire cities to respond to such acts of war.

 

[iGas]

IMHO, the initial impact would do enough damage/disorientate to the occupants on the top floor and perhaps the floor below that as well. And, the delay fuse give the rescuer enough time to gather in the building before it destroy everything.

And, IMHO 2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i cant believe that doing stuff like this isnt more harmful to israel in the long run, it just doesnt look good to be bombing peoples houses

 

[Mani]

Civilians do not have mortars or rockets. Anything at those locations SHOULD be decimated.

You should be grateful that Israel is such an advanced country, in WW2 we'd have to carpet bomb entire cities to respond to such acts of war.

Thank God for that. Israel's so advanced, they've managed to only kill 80 women and children in response to the 0 Israelis killed.

Hamas is no better, but Israel and its defenders seem to be doing some pretty amazing mental gymnastics to defend their body counts.

 

[Harabec]

Thank God for that. Israel's so advanced, they've managed to only kill 80 women and children in response to the 0 Israelis killed.

Hamas is no better, but Israel and its defenders seem to be doing some pretty amazing mental gymnastics to defend their body counts.

You think warfare needs to be "fair" and each side needs to lose the same amount of people no matter what technological advances they might come up with to defend their populations?

 

[Mani]

You think warfare needs to be "fair" and each side needs to lose the same amount of people no matter what technological advances they might come up with to defend their populations?

No, and don't put words into my mouth. What I do believe though is that a side can't claim moral superiority if they have killed 200 people to the other side's 0.

 

[DominionSeraph]

No, and don't put words into my mouth. What I do believe though is that a side can't claim moral superiority if they have killed 200 people to the other side's 0.

Palestinians kidnap and kill 3 Israeli teens. Palestinians rejoice and interfere with efforts to find them.
Israelis kidnap and kill a Palestinian teen. Israelis track down and arrest the perpetrators.

Note the difference.

 

[Harabec]

We don't want "moral superiority" or pink unicorns, just for rockets not to be fired at us.
Do we need 200 dead before we're allowed to ask for that? Or may we act once a rocket leaves Gaza?

 

[Mani]

Palestinians kidnap and kill 3 Israeli teens. Palestinians rejoice and interfere with efforts to find them.
Israelis kidnap and kill a Palestinian teen. Israelis track down and arrest the perpetrators.

Note the difference.

Brilliant. So Israel tracked down the perpetrator behind 1 Palestinian death and created 200 more.

 

[Mani]

We don't want "moral superiority" or pink unicorns, just for rockets not to be fired at us.
Do we need 200 dead before we're allowed to ask for that? Or may we act once a rocket leaves Gaza?

Israel has every right to defend itself. But if you don't think given the incredible disparity in civilian casualties that Israel is not overstepping, I don't even know what to say.

And do you guys really feel that bombing the shit out of Palestine is going to create less animosity and attacks toward you guys?

 

[Harabec]

What is reasonable defense, though? What would you do about constant rocket and mortar attacks?

 

[iGas]

What is reasonable defense, though? What would you do about constant rocket and mortar attacks?

Perhaps not robbing their neigbors blind, equal human rights, and abolish discrimination, and fair access to water as a start. That may create friendships instead of oppressing, stealing, and killing.