Israeli wo murdered by Gazan, Palestinians call for 3rd intifada, Obama says nothing.

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Thai worker killed by rocket

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=171296

Israel wants to destroy mosque

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=171176

Where is the condemnation?

All I hear is silence. Obama lashed out at Israel for announcing preliminary building planes in Jerusalem, but says nothing when an Israeli worker is killed by a Palestinian. Obama sees Jews living in Jerusalem as a threat to peace, but not homicidal Palestinians. Obama thinks Jews building huts in the West Bank as "insulting" to the US administration, but not Palestinians who incite the youth to attack Israelis because the government wants to "destroy the al-aska mosque", "re-build the temple" "judaize" jerusalem.

Britain used the attack as an opportunity to condemn Israel for daring to seal its borders.

Insanity. When will Israelis grow some balls and tell the world to GTFO.

Americans would tolerate this level of subjugation. We destroy entire countries for less.
 

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There are 11 people murdered in US every day. He didn't say anything about that either. What is so important about this 1 Israeli?
 

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There are 11 people murdered in US every day. He didn't say anything about that either. What is so important about this 1 Israeli?

Crime and terrorism are two different issues.

10,000 Americans are killed in murders every year, compared to the 3,000+ americans killed in 9/11 that were used as a pretext for a "war on terror."

This is in addition to the dozen suicide bombing attacks foiled this year, Israeli soldier stabbed to death last month, and Israeli citizen gunned down by Fatah henchmen in Christmas 2009.

American condemned Israel for carrying out a raid in the WB in response to violence 2 months ago, why shouldn't it condemn the Palestinians for violence in spite of the bogus peace process?

Israel should start behaving like America and adopt Obama's military policies if we are so righteous in comparison, no?
 

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Is Obama required to speak everytime something happens to an Israeli? I could have sworn he was the president of the United States and not Israel?

Speaking of not saying anything, where are all the threads you start every day about all the US servicemen and woman who die in the line of duty? You're bitching because Obama didn't make a speech a single Israeli who died and I haven't seen you start a thread about the American servicemen and woman laying down their lives.
 

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Is Obama required to speak everytime something happens to an Israeli? I could have sworn he was the president of the United States and not Israel?

Speaking of not saying anything, where are all the threads you start every day about all the US servicemen and woman who die in the line of duty? You're bitching because Obama didn't make a speech a single Israeli who died and I haven't seen you start a thread about the American servicemen and woman laying down their lives.

US soldiers dying in the line of duty and US civilians being killed by terrorists in the USA are different.

Obama has no problem condemning Israel for building pizza huts in the West Bank and Israel's military operations.

Like it or not America is highly involved in the Israeli peace process and if it fails to condemn Palestinian incitement and violence while at the same time condemning Israel it is SUSPECT, no?

I'm sure if US civilians were being killed by Al-Qaeda rockets, then there would be a storm of frustration. Just as there was a storm of frustration when some troll smuggled explosives into a plane.

Ohhh no, explosives...but 11 americans die every day so who gives a shit.
 

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Crime and terrorism are two different issues.

10,000 Americans are killed in murders every year, compared to the 3,000+ americans killed in 9/11 that were used as a pretext for a "war on terror."

This is in addition to the dozen suicide bombing attacks foiled this year, Israeli soldier stabbed to death last month, and Israeli citizen gunned down by Fatah henchmen in Christmas 2009.

American condemned Israel for carrying out a raid in the WB in response to violence 2 months ago, why shouldn't it condemn the Palestinians for violence in spite of the bogus peace process?

Israel should start behaving like America and adopt Obama's military policies if we are so righteous in comparison, no?


What I am saying is that this is Israels problem. Why should I give a fuck?
 

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What I am saying is that this is Israels problem. Why should I give a fuck?

Is this "Ozoned says nothing."

No, it is Obama.

Clearly Obama gives enough of a fuck to moan over Israeli construction apartment buildings and claiming it undermines the Palestinian peace process, but not Palestinians launching rockets at Israel, attacking Israeli civilians, and rioting over classic anti-semitic canards like Jews want to re-build the temple and destroy mosques which has been used as a pretex for massacring jews in the past.

Your dubious comparison to crime in the USA and terrorism is laughable.

Obama obviously has his priorities and he is more inclined to suck up to homicidal Muslims and bash US allies.

Either you are part of the peace process, or your not. There are two sizes to the story and failing to recognize the actions of one while demanding the other to live up to a standard we never have is insulting.
 

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Lately I've been thinking that the U.S. needs to take a firmer line with Israel. As the U.S. sees it, the building of settlements is completely unhelpful in regards to its goals in the Middle East.

If Israel continues to thumb their nose at Obama, perhaps it's time to hit them where it hurts: Their wallet. Perhaps some reductions in aid are in order?
 
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Lately I've been thinking that the U.S. needs to take a firmer line with Israel. As the U.S. sees it, the building of settlements is completely unhelpful in regards to its goals in the Middle East.

If Israel continues to thumb their nose at Obama, perhaps it's time to hit them where it hurts: Their wallet. Perhaps some reductions in aid are in order?

Perhaps we should just reduce aid to help our own budget. We're blowing money out the wazoo and can certainly cut back on many things. If we're going to keep blowing money away, at least blow it at home and if not, we can save it and put it towards the deficit.
 

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Is this "Ozoned says nothing."

No, it is Obama.

Clearly Obama gives enough of a fuck to moan over Israeli construction apartment buildings and claiming it undermines the Palestinian peace process, but not Palestinians launching rockets at Israel, attacking Israeli civilians, and rioting over classic anti-semitic canards like Jews want to re-build the temple and destroy mosques which has been used as a pretex for massacring jews in the past.

Your dubious comparison to crime in the USA and terrorism is laughable.

Obama obviously has his priorities and he is more inclined to suck up to homicidal Muslims and bash US allies.

Either you are part of the peace process, or your not. There are two sizes to the story and failing to recognize the actions of one while demanding the other to live up to a standard we never have is insulting.
Here. Maybe this will shut you up

Obama Condemns Palestinian Rocket Fire, Silent on US-Backed Israeli Mass Killings in Gaza
Meanwhile, Obama made his first substantive comments on the Middle East conflict since Israel’s attack on Gaza. Obama first mentioned his commitment to Israel’s security, without affirming his commitment to Palestinian security. He condemned Palestinian rocket attacks on southern Israeli towns, but didn’t criticize the US-backed Israeli bombings of densely populated Gaza. But in a departure from the Bush administration, Obama acknowledged Palestinian suffering and said Gaza’s borders should be opened to aid.
 

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Lately I've been thinking that the U.S. needs to take a firmer line with Israel. As the U.S. sees it, the building of settlements is completely unhelpful in regards to its goals in the Middle East.

If Israel continues to thumb their nose at Obama, perhaps it's time to hit them where it hurts: Their wallet. Perhaps some reductions in aid are in order?

Right, thump their nose at Obama.

After Israel explicitly said the moratorium does not apply to Jerusalem, and Obama agreed to it.

I hope Israel rejects the aids and treats the Palestinians like WE treat Afghanistan.

I don't see anything threatening with Jews building pizza huts in a Jewish neighborhood. Just because it pisses of racist Palestinians who want a Jew-free state does not somehow make it legitimate.

Israel is USA's most loyal ally and has compromised its own security to maintain the relationship. Obama has yet to put pressure on Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Palestinians, or Iraq.

Israel should adopt OUR military policies. Declare Gaza terrorist-controlled and unleash Operation Crescent Wind on their ass.

No more peace process. When the terrorist is gone then there will be peace and Obama will have no scapegoat to deflect from his utter pathetic tenure as president.
 

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You need to put your pants back on. Your righteous indignation is showing.
 

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Yes, I'm righteous.

Obama crying over Jewish pizza huts but silence over Palestinian threats of war and violence.

Right.

I'm the righteous one.

I showed you the other side of the story just a few posts ago. Trust me, my friend. You need to let this one go.
 

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I showed you the other side of the story just a few posts ago. Trust me, my friend. You need to let this one go.

No, you did not.

I will not let this go.

I'm sure the US would not let go al-qaeda shelling civilians in US territory, no?

Do you not think there is some bizarre about an American more offended by Jews living in their capital than sworn-Jew killers who shoot rockets, blow up their children, and use antisemitic canards as a pretext for terrorism.

I don't give a shit what Obama thinks but his words have power and he is legitimizing Palestinian violence. If Israel was offering support for our enemies and enabling homicidal muslims to enter a "day of rage" in our cities, attacking civilians, burning down homes, assaulting civilians, I'd be very pissed off at Israel.

If my livelihood is being threatened because of the foreign policy of another state, that pisses me off.

Obama sucks up to muslims in Cairo, bends his ass over to Saudi dictators, but talks trash to the most progressive and modern state in the ME while tripling aid to Palestinians while they call for more war.

Maybe Israel should start supporting our enemies and sponsoring programs that libel our government, no?
 

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Israeli wealth is already an integral part of our modern military industrial complex. It funds (supports) all the sides.
 

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The man, who is in his 30s, is the first person to be killed by rocket fire in southern Israel since the Israeli campaign in Gaza last year.

Over the same period, 88 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed in a mixture of Israeli military operations and border clashes, according to the United Nations.

Hey, you're almost up to your 100:1 ratio there, IHateMuslims
 

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Perhaps we should just reduce aid to help our own budget. We're blowing money out the wazoo and can certainly cut back on many things. If we're going to keep blowing money away, at least blow it at home and if not, we can save it and put it towards the deficit.

Can't hurt! I's not like the status quo is so great.

Right, thump their nose at Obama.

After Israel explicitly said the moratorium does not apply to Jerusalem, and Obama agreed to it.

I hope Israel rejects the aids and treats the Palestinians like WE treat Afghanistan.

I don't see anything threatening with Jews building pizza huts in a Jewish neighborhood. Just because it pisses of racist Palestinians who want a Jew-free state does not somehow make it legitimate.

Israel is USA's most loyal ally and has compromised its own security to maintain the relationship. Obama has yet to put pressure on Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Palestinians, or Iraq.

Israel should adopt OUR military policies. Declare Gaza terrorist-controlled and unleash Operation Crescent Wind on their ass.

No more peace process. When the terrorist is gone then there will be peace and Obama will have no scapegoat to deflect from his utter pathetic tenure as president.

Yes, they invoked the displeasure of the White House, and they did so at their own peril. Nice of you to gab on about the Palestinians, but the fact of the matter is this has nothing to do with them. The issue, simply: Israel did something the U.S. disapproved of. Perhaps they'll pay a price for it.

Haha, loyal ally. I hope you're not deluded enough to think that anyone believes that? Israel does what's good for Israel, and to hell with everyone else. That's what every other nation on Earth does, and it's perfectly natural, but stow the compatriots bullshit. We're all out there for ourselves.
 

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Can't hurt! I's not like the status quo is so great.



Yes, they invoked the displeasure of the White House, and they did so at their own peril. Nice of you to gab on about the Palestinians, but the fact of the matter is this has nothing to do with them. The issue, simply: Israel did something the U.S. disapproved of. Perhaps they'll pay a price for it.


Israel did something Obama disapproved of. Something unfair and inconsistent with reality.

Not Israel's fault the USA has been corrupted by Arab oil and we have a President that is more supportive of homicidal Muslims than Jewish rights.



Haha, loyal ally. I hope you're not deluded enough to think that anyone believes that? Israel does what's good for Israel, and to hell with everyone else. That's what every other nation on Earth does, and it's perfectly natural, but stow the compatriots bullshit. We're all out there for ourselves.

Then you clearly know nothing about Israel or its relationship with the USA. Name me an ally that has been more loyal than Israel? An ally that has compromised its own security to maintain a relationship with the USA.

If Israel did what's best for Israel, it would level Gaza, destroy the Palestinian leadership, set Lebanon on fire, bomb Iran, and bomb Syria.

We would do it.

And we have.

But no, Israel subjects itself to bogus peace processes and exposes its population to homicidal muslims to not undermine oil politics and the Arab street.

Why didn't Israel nuke the Arabs in 73? Why did Israel WAIT for the Arabs to attack when Meir knew Syria was mobilizing forces 5 hours before the attack began?

Because Meir knew USA would not support Israel if it pre-emptively attacked Syria as it pre-emptively attacked the Arabs in 67.

It could of course nuked the arab states, then perhaps we wouldn't have having this conversation.

You are so smug and think Israel does whatever the hell it wants, you know nothing.

I say Israel reject US aid and bomb the fuck out of the Arab tribes. Who gives a shit about oil.

When oil shoots to 10 dollars a gallon you'll be wishing the relationship still existed.