Israeli mayor bans Christmas trees, Israeli troops attack Santa

[kylebisme]

The Christmas tree banning in an extension of the town Jesus was from no less:

The mayor of Nazareth Illit, an Israeli town with an Arab Christian minority, has declared a ban on the public display of Christmas trees. "Nazareth Illit is a Jewish city and it will not happen--not this year and not next year, so long as I am a mayor," Mayor Shimon Gapso said. Arab Christians, who make up about 7 percent of the town's 40,000 residents, were denied their request to put up Christmas trees in their neighborhoods.

And at the weekly protest against the wall robing the people of Bil'iin off from their farmland over in the West Bank:

Why do we allow our government to spend so much of our tax dollars and diplomatic power on such Scrooges?

 

[Throckmorton]

The War on Christmas rages on

 

[JEDIYoda]

Why do we allow our government to spend so much of our tax dollars and diplomatic power on such Scrooges?

Why are you such an idiot?

read you might learn something...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_bush

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The article your article references says that the mayor only banned them from town squares.

 

[Murloc]

Why are you such an idiot?

read you might learn something...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanukkah_bush

this makes it just worse, because it proves it's not the tree the problem.
It's the mayor who is a religious discriminator, and yeah, your taxpayer money goes to a country where there's more people like him (he didn't get elected with magic I guess).

 

[Harabec]

Load of BS from kyle as usual. Warmongering fraud.
This is a free country and the christian people of Nazareth can take this to court - win - and get the mayor fired.
I'm betting that they won't, but thats another story.

 

[spittledip]

who cares

 

[JS80]

How is this any different from US cities?

 

[Jaskalas]

Israel beat up Santa, quick, it's time to support Islamic terrorism! That'll teach Israel and earn Santa some respect! :whiste:

 

[kylebisme]

This is a free country and the christian people of Nazareth can take this to court - win - and get the mayor fired.
I'm betting that they won't, but thats another story.

Israel is a country where descrimnation against minorities is rampant, the Israeli Supreeme Court approving Jewish-only buildings in Jaffa being a recent example among many which exposes your suggestion that the Christians of Nazareth Illit could get their mayor fired over discriminating against them.

How is this any different from US cities?

I'm not aware of any US cities practicing such discrimination, but if you have some examples, please share.

Israel beat up Santa, quick, it's time to support Islamic terrorism!

There's no reason to support terrorism or discrimination, be it Islamic, Jewish or otherwise.

 

[SamurAchzar]

Why do we allow our government to spend so much of our tax dollars and diplomatic power on such Scrooges?

If you look past your obvious bias against Israel and it's Jewish occupants, you'll probably understand why it's beneficial to have an ally like Israel, first against USSR and its proxies, then against radical Islam.

Just for comparison, US probably spends more money, annually, maintaining military presence in the Korea peninsula than it provides Israel with aid, and the latter is spent inside US nearly exclusively while the expenses of overseas deployment go in large parts to the hosting countries. Not to mention the cost of the Korean War.

Your question might have been more reasonable if you replaced "Scrooges" with "Jews", unless you already consider them synonymous.

Merry Christmas, Kyle.

 

[CanOWorms]

Israel is a country where descrimnation against minorities is rampant, the Israeli Supreeme Court approving Jewish-only buildings in Jaffa being a recent example among many which exposes your suggestion that the Christians of Nazareth Illit could get their mayor fired over discriminating against them.

You need to reread that article. The Supreme Court did not approve Jewish-only buildings in that action. It's about the lacking of a judicial procedural requirement. I'm sure that you can easily find some other article to support what you're saying, but that article isn't one of them.

 

[kylebisme]

Please quote whatever portion of the article you believe supports your claim.

 

[JS80]

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7710289-has-political-correctness-gone-amuck
http://krmg.com/localnews/2010/12/bank-forced-to-take-down-relig.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...otenberg_apologizes_for_saying_christmas.html
http://www.desototimes.com/articles/2010/12/25/news/doc4d14eab5d5e5f501575604.txt
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/12/2...troversy-ban-christmas-greetings-decorations/
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/12/24/opinion/cchristmas_aclu122410.txt
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...jEjyPw?docId=4b6442a3bde14c1587a8c532435d8808

 

[Throckmorton]

How is this any different from US cities?

US cities can and do have Christmas trees. Have you heard of the White House Christmas tree?

 

[Throckmorton]

JS80, I can't believe that Realclearpolitics video... Nina Totenberg didn't apologize for saying "Christmas". She said "forgive the expression, a Christmas party".

 

[CanOWorms]

Please quote whatever portion of the article you believe supports your claim.

The entire article goes against your statement. Did you only read the headline?

Here's the part I'm talking about regarding the lack of procedural requirements:

Supreme Court President Dorit Beinisch ruled that the appeal was "theoretical" since the rights to the land already have been granted to a real estate purchasing company created by Be'emunah, the property development firm that won the tender. Be'emunah develops housing for the religious Zionist population.

"There is a foundation to the argument that the [Israel Lands] Administration must oversee the land being sold in an equitable, non-discriminatory way, including by private companies that win tenders it issues," the court found. But, "the appeal is against a done deal, and the requested support is no longer practical. There is no longer a practical possibility of taking away the respondents' rights to the plot of land."

It seems that they lack standing.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

What a surprise, minorities trying to steal other people's land and using the race/religion card to do so.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Lots of crocodile tears in this thread.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Religion of peace...

OH WAIT

 

[kylebisme]

It seems that they lack standing.

They "lack the standing" because Israeli Discrimination Against Non-Jews Is Carefully Codified in State of Israel's Laws, hence the reason the Supreme Court "respondents' rights to the plot of land" include being allowed to discriminate on ethno-religious grounds. Tell me, if the situation was this:

British Supreme Court President Lord Nicholas Addison Phillips ruled that the appeal was "theoretical" since the rights to the land already have been granted to a real estate purchasing company created by Firmness, the property development firm that won the tender. Firmness develops housing for the Anglican nationalist population.

"There is a foundation to the argument that the [British Lands] Administration must oversee the land being sold in an equitable, non-discriminatory way, including by private companies that win tenders it issues," the court found. But, "the appeal is against a done deal, and the requested support is no longer practical. There is no longer a practical possibility of taking away the respondents' rights to the plot of land."

You'd have no trouble acknowledging it as state-approved discrimination, would you?

 

[Freshgeardude]

The Christmas tree banning in an extension of the town Jesus was from no less:



And at the weekly protest against the wall robing the people of Bil'iin off from their farmland over in the West Bank:

Why do we allow our government to spend so much of our tax dollars and diplomatic power on such Scrooges?

Oh please lets see a Christmas tree anywhere in the Arab world.



Oh and about the wall. You call it an apartheid wall, Israel and the rest of the wall call of a defensive wall to protect israelis from a once fluid border against terrorists.

The wall came up after terrorist attacks, not before.

 

[CanOWorms]

They "lack the standing" because Israeli Discrimination Against Non-Jews Is Carefully Codified in State of Israel's Laws, hence the reason the Supreme Court "respondents' rights to the plot of land" include being allowed to discriminate on ethno-religious grounds.

No, it seems that they lack standing because of redressability. This requirement is in the United States, too. It's derived from the Constitution.

Tell me, if the situation was this:

You'd have no trouble acknowledging it as state-approved discrimination, would you?

Not necessarily. If it's being unevenly applied then I would agree with you, but here the Supreme Court in your article seems like they want to be sympathetic to the appellants.

Maybe you're being sarcastic and I just can't tell. Your article even states that the Israeli SC implicitly stated that the sort of discrimination you claim in housing would be illegal. You really need to reread it beyond just the title. I don't understand how someone can interpret the way you did. It's the worst article to post for what you claimed. It completely destroys your argument and supports your opposition.

 

[CanOWorms]

Oh please lets see a Christmas tree anywhere in the Arab world.

Christmas tree time in Dubai
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/christmas-tree-time-in-dubai-1.731145

 

[kylebisme]

Your article even states that the Israeli SC implicitly stated that the sort of discrimination you claim in housing would be illegal.

Please quote whatever portion of the article you believe supports your claim here.