Israel strikes in Sudan again

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Abwx

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Do you see "collateral damage" here (source):

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They look like precise shots to me, and they are far from the only examples of Israeli solders targeting innocent civilians, plenty more are documented here.

He sees no damage, quite the contrary...
You are talking to someone that think that only israelis are human beings.
 

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Jaskalas asks somewhat two questions. (1) Who is we and who is not we. (2) Personally I hope no terrorism of any kind occurs anywhere. But unlike Jaskalas who restricts the question to only Israel, I recognize that any time you have great injustice and retractable power, terrorism will follow those injustice like stink on shit.

As a result, while Israel pees its pity pot about terrorism, many nations, even at this time of terrorism, have zero terrorist incidents. And hence do not have to worry about terrorists getting them before they get them.

But it never occurs to Israel, if they were more just to their neighbors, their neighbors might make peace with them?

Zero terrorist incidents. Some one does not read/listen to the news. The Muslim world creates an incident at least one a month if not more

Define just. Israel has been attacked multiple times with overwhelming force in material and manpower. That is just? Or is it OK only when it happens to Israel?


All previous peace promises were broken after every conflict. The Arabs would not accept Israel and continues to attempt to destroy her

Treaties of peace with Egypt came after Egypt was reeling from stupidity in '73
Treaties of peace with Jordan came after Jordan was whipped militarily in '67

Lebanon and Syria have yet to make peace; they are still at a state of war even after getting themselves whipped multiple times.

What Arab state has voluntarily come forward with a peace offering to Israel?
 
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Abwx

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Zero terrorist incidents. Some one does not read/listen to the news. The Muslim world creates an incident at least one a month if not more

Define just. Israel has been attacked multiple times with overwhelming force in material and manpower. That is just? Or is it OK only when it happens to Israel?


All previous peace promises were broken after every conflict. The Arabs would not accept Israel and continues to attempt to destroy her

Treaties of peace with Egypt came after Egypt was reeling from stupidity in '73
Treaties of peace with Jordan came after Jordan was whipped militarily in '67

Lebanon and Syria have yet to make peace; they are still at a state of war even after getting themselves whipped multiple times.

What Arab state has voluntarily come forward with a peace offering to Israel?
Israell goal from the start was to grab as much land as possible,
and as such, they dont want peace since being at war is a
strategical and willfull choice...
Seems you are brainwashed by the Zionists that are in control
of almost all US press and medias...

Quotes from D. ben Gourion, Zionist leader http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurion


"But the fighting is only one aspect of the conflict which is in its essence a political one. And politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves."

"The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them."

"We will make a great and awful mistake if we fail to settle Hebron, neighbor and predecessor of Jerusalem, with a large Jewish settlement, constantly growing and expanding, very soon."

"Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So, it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there."
 
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spacejamz

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When you indiscriminately kill suspected terrorists including innocent women and children how is it any different than Hamas killing innocent civilians?

You would think at some point these 'civilians' would understand that if militants have 'moved' into the neighborhood, something bad is about to happen and it would be in their best interest to leave. Heaven forbid that they would ask the militants to not use them as human shields though. How long have they been using civilians as human shields anyway and yet the pattern still continues?

Since we don't hear about any protests, from the civilians does this mean they are okay with being used in this manner?
 

iGas

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You would think at some point these 'civilians' would understand that if militants have 'moved' into the neighborhood, something bad is about to happen and it would be in their best interest to leave. Heaven forbid that they would ask the militants to not use them as human shields though. How long have they been using civilians as human shields anyway and yet the pattern still continues?

Since we don't hear about any protests, from the civilians does this mean they are okay with being used in this manner?
Where can they go?

They are are walled in a big gigantic jail. And, it didn't work out well for them when they left their home last because of militants and wars (Zionists took their home & properties).
 

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How long have they been using civilians as human shields anyway and yet the pattern still continues?
I've yet to see any real evidence to support Israel's claim that Hamas uses civilians as human shields. If you have seen anything to prove as much, please share. For an example of real evidence, here is some video of Israeli solders using a Palestinian child as a human shield.
 

Nebor

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For what, being brown?

That doesn't make any sense, there are brown Israelis.

Really they're just sort of in the way and bothersome. No one wants them, they won't come to a compromise that will allow them to be self sufficient and not um, bothersome. So... I'm just going to keep looking the other way.
 

kylebisme

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there are brown Israelis.
Sure, but there are many Israelis who aren't brown too, while basically all Palestinians are brown, which results in bigots disregarding them as such.

Really they're just sort of in the way and bothersome.
Like Winston Churchill said:

I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.
Eh?

No one wants them, they won't come to a compromise that will allow them to be self sufficient and not um, bothersome.
Israel doesn't want them because they aren't Jewish, but Israel wants their land. What compromise can you right expect from them?
 
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Zebo

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One day Israel will be left holding the bag for an Israeli air strike on foreign soil. The entire world is pissed off about the Dubaia assassination where Israel forged foreign passports of European nations.

Pardon me, I never saw any notice where Israel was elected a world God or policeman of the world.

But as we know, Israel picks on only the weak, and a recent time we can site, namely Turkey, its alienated what used to be a strong ally.

But then again, when Israel sets up its own bunker mentality, Israel against the entire world, its a self fulfilling prophesy that Israel has no friends. So see again, Israel needs more bunker mentality, so it continues to have fewer and fewer friends, now it has none, rinse and repeat for 63 years and counting, and have fun fun fun tell until daddy takes your tbird away. As the entire world realizes Israel is a loose canon and rabid dog that has to be muzzled.

Might makes right. You even admit it in your second sentence and your prattling on about world ganging up on Israel.
 

Macamus Prime

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Do you see "collateral damage" here (source):

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They look like precise shots to me, and they are far from the only examples of Israeli solders targeting innocent civilians, plenty more are documented here.

The rabid dog that is Israel does not care. They consider these boys one less terrorist to worry about in the future.

And Frankly, both sides are totally fucked up.

As far as I'm considered both sides can go to hell. They are both sick in the brain. Diseased and damaged; possibly due to prolonged exposure to the desert sun.

There is no way each side is "right" in their thinking and approach. So, let them rot.

My issue is how the US is involved in this. Granted, Israel is an "ally" in the Middle East. But, we are nothing more than money and a meat sheild to Israel. I hope we wake up one day and cut them off. They don't care about our lives.

And, here is proof; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident