WelshBloke
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
?
"That man is Nigardly" (money)
"Hey great person!" (Black to black)
Normal...
"Fucking great person"
"great person society"
"Bunch of *****"
Racist..
"The Jews are a people more like a familly than anything"
"Israel is the land of Jews"
Normal..
"Quit being so Jewish.."
"What a Jew Lobby"
Racist/Anti-Semitic w/e you want to call it.
fallout man
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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Don't be confused by Richard's smoke and mirrors! Within context, phrases such as:
"great person stole my bike." and
"Jew stole my gold."
use these words in a "racial" (or ethnic, if we care to nit-pick) word fashion.
Totally acceptable use of these words would include creating an organization entitled:
"awesome people for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership (NPFO)"
"great person Defense League (NDL)"
"awesome people for Jesus"
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Don't be confused by Richard's smoke and mirrors! Within context, phrases such as:
"great person stole my bike." and
"Jew stole my gold."
use these words in a "racial" (or ethnic, if we care to nit-pick) word fashion.
Totally acceptable use of these words would include creating an organization entitled:
"awesome people for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership (NPFO)"
"great person Defense League (NDL)"
"awesome people for Jesus"
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Hmm, where did I say that?
It's too bad people don't have to actually listen to there posts read back to them, than you might be too ashamed to post anymore since I have yet to see one post from you ever that was actually worth reading.
Especially coming from a guy warned for racial slurs a few times in the last week :laugh:
fallout man
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
?
"That man is Nigardly" (money)
"Hey great person!" (Black to black)
Normal...
"Fucking great person"
"great person society"
"Bunch of *****"
Racist..
"The Jews are a people more like a familly than anything"
"Israel is the land of Jews"
Normal..
"Quit being so Jewish.."
"What a Jew Lobby"
Racist/Anti-Semitic w/e you want to call it.
OH...
THAT totally cleared it up for me.
(I seriously lolled when I read the bold part, Richard. Seriously, I mean it.)
is normal, but
Racist... Oh wait... I'm so confused.
Help me Lord Jesus in this troubling time!
:roll: At least I don't yellow-out when I care to voice my opinion. America is the land of Honkeys, and we've got them all there First Amendment rights and all that what-not. :roll:
Edit: In retrospect, I'm going to stay the fuck out of this topic. I particularly take delight in how I've apparently become the resident racist on P&N. It's quaint.
I posted my main views on the ICC court. When the discussion moves to be irrational, uncivil, going in circles, baiting, etc., it can make sense to not continue it.
My post above was partly tongue in cheek - although I'm curious which specific Israeli policies you actually condemn as too harmful to the Palestinians.
You are baiting and approaching incivility with the other comment above, and that's not going to help the discussion, nor incline me to interact with you.
That's not saying I won't to another post - because you are at times better than that and not going even further in the wrong direction, it's just say to get back to better discussion.
You said you would get back to me in regards to it being unconstitutional to put US citizens under ICC authority. You never did, I was looking forward to that, ah well.
To answer your question I do not support the expansion of the colonies. I do support the removal of them (which is obviously hard to do when building permits are being given out.) I don't support to economic sanctions imposed on the Palestinians. If Israel wants they can search every cargo going in for weapons, but they should not block goods from going in. I also do not support "splitting up" Palestinian communities as they are currently doing.
I've stated this before. I think the removal of the economic sanctions along with bringing Palestinians together and the vacating of settlements (though not the return until peace) would go a long way into achieving peace.
Technically, yes, but they're nowhere nearly equal as words.
The N-word has a far more dominant history to this day as a slur, any use of it at all starts with two strikes to see if the context justifies its use. Its default is offensive.
The J-word, well you see how silly that sounds, because there's never been a need to call it the J-word because it's not normally offensive.
Most of the time it's used it's not offensive. "Is Jon Stewart a Jew? Yes he is." Usually, when it's offensive it's because of the message it's used in, not the word itself.
It starts out with somewhat less than one strike; when it's used, there's some listening for whether there's a hate message coming, but usually it's not.
It also has the distinction that beside the non-offensive use, there's also a large discussion regaridng middle eastern policies that's critical or negative, but not racist.
Those discussions happen about African-Americans as well, but they use that term or blacks, not the N-word. Because there is no N-word for Jews, they usually use "Jew".
But yes, the word can be used a a hate word at times. However, its default use is not offensive.
The word semitic or semite could perhaps be used at times, but its use is almost entirely in the form of discussing 'anti-simitism'. You don't hear "Is Jon Stewart a Semite?"
In fact, most, including me, have never bothered to get a clear definition of "Semite".
Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
?
"That man is Nigardly" (money)
"Hey great person!" (Black to black)
Normal...
"Fucking great person"
"great person society"
"Bunch of *****"
Racist..
"The Jews are a people more like a familly than anything"
"Israel is the land of Jews"
Normal..
"Quit being so Jewish.."
"What a Jew Lobby"
Racist/Anti-Semitic w/e you want to call it.
OH...
THAT totally cleared it up for me.
(I seriously lolled when I read the bold part, Richard. Seriously, I mean it.)
is normal, but
Racist... Oh wait... I'm so confused.
Help me Lord Jesus in this troubling time!
:roll: At least I don't yellow-out when I care to voice my opinion. America is the land of Honkeys, and we've got them all there First Amendment rights and all that what-not. :roll:
Edit: In retrospect, I'm going to stay the fuck out of this topic. I particularly take delight in how I've apparently become the resident racist on P&N. It's quaint.
Going off to burn some crosses? Or maybe some swastikas on a synagogue? Have a good one!
fallout man
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Snappy come-back there, Dick. :roll:
I live in an apartment, and don't have a shop to make wooden crosses in anymore.
No, I said I might, because I had some interest in it, but it didn't seem the discussion was very productive then or soon after, and I haven't bothered.
I'm told that I am very patient, but my patience has not been holding up that well lately for the discussions that are not going anywhere.
I do appreciate your interest in my response though, and usually would respond when that's the case, as I'd initially had some interest in - I did not 'say I would' - doing.
Some very reasonable statements; but isn't there a logistical problem that it's not practical to 'search every container'?
We're in agreement on that.
I'd think that perhaps some fresh and neutral advising would be useful - but I see little interest in that from anyone.
I've heard some opinion - I don't know how accurate it is - that there's a sense in Israel that 'time is on their side' as long as they continue the measures of settlements etc. The Palastenians, squeezed by land, by water, by necessities, by freedom - the situation is headed toward even more intolerable than it is, and whenever it boils into crisis and confrontation, there's a one-sided military response available to further Israel's interests.
So, it seems important to me that the US not let things get worse, but standing up to Israel is not very politically tenable now. It's a lot easier to stick with the easy answers.
That's all you can come up with? The latter is questionable, and the former isn't even close to the same word, or even the same etymology!
The problem with the idea of standing up to Israel is that it creates a sense of isolationism in Israel which in turn manifests itself into nationalism (which we saw affect the last Israel elections.). Israel itself though currently dependent on the US is not using it as a lifeline anymore. It was expanded its industry and currently trades with Europe, China and Russia as well as Japan.
The problem with ignoring the Israel issues, namely security, a sense of national pride, the idea that the world is all against them so they need to stick together is that it is nothing more than another domino towards a very nationalistic state. To put it into perspective, the youth of Israel (14-18) currently support by 80% margins a man who will make loyalty oaths to Israel and the Jewish faith mandatory for citizenship.
Israel needs to step back from the abyss, but the world needs to understand that hardlining a militarily independent nation is not going to do anything beneficial for the Palestinian people. Unless the world is willing to commit troops to Gaza you will not guilt Israel into stepping back. People need to address both sides concerns.
It is not currently practical to search "every" container theoretically, but it would need to be done to stop the flow of arms. So goods would not be traveling as freely as say we see in Canada-US or Mexico-Canada, but they would still be getting across. Sadly, as my previous post dictated both sides concerns need to be addressed moving forward, to ignore solely the Israel side, or the Palestinian side will make a proud people (on both sides of the dispute) becoming nothing but more entrenched in there positions.
fallout man
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Are you seriously that fucked-up-in-the-face to think that I would bother to have this interaction with you were I legitimately bigoted, and on my way to burning some crosses?
Some of my family were executed by Nazi invaders in WWII. What have you lost?
I thorougly apologize for pointing out YOUR lack of understanding regarding the use of *****" and "jew" in AMERICAN vernacular, meshugeneh.
Interesting vocabulary for a racist!
For someone who is not bigoted you sure enjoy those racial slurs in your posts!
fallout man
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Originally posted by: fallout man
Are you drunk?
I meant posts of the last few weeks, not that one post directly.. :roll:
fallout man
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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: fallout man
Are you drunk?
I meant posts of the last few weeks, not that one post directly.. :roll:
Oh Brother.
You're a much bigger shit-head that I had ever hoped. Cheers, and g'nite!
Originally posted by: fallout man
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: fallout man
Are you drunk?
I meant posts of the last few weeks, not that one post directly.. :roll:
Oh Brother.
You're a much bigger shit-head that I had ever hoped. Cheers, and g'nite!
Goodnight! Try not to hurt yourself with the burnings!
You might as well be suggesting the sky is orange. "I mean I know it's really blue, but what if....what if it were...ORANGE!!!!??? HUH? WHAT THEN????" Israel would be the last person in the world to do that to us. Just like Great Britain or Japan.
you're not alone. a friend of mine was a child in Vietnam in the early '60's,
had his entire country, friends, and family torched by the US.
the Jewish people are not the only society who has suffered a Holocaust.
e.g. Iraq 2003-present.
however, you do have an avenue for compensation. talk to George Bush,
about his Grandpa, who was caught loaning money to the Nazis as late as
October 1942 ( i believe that's the date of the vesting order signed by FDR
seizing the assets of the bank, managed by Prescott Bush.)
ref.
http://www.tarplety.net/bushb.htm
see Chapter 2, "The Hitler Project".
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