Israel Spied on Iran Nuclear Talks With U.S.

[cubby1223]

Oh I'm plenty pissed at them too, I'd love to see them brought up on charges of treason. Sadly I just assume most US politicians are untouchable from a legal perspective.

Democrats, please act Republican for once and press the treason charges. Even if it won't stick, just do it.

I re-read the article again today, there is a lot of speculation, and a lot of people are filling in missing gaps of the story with their own personal take on the overall situation, hence the suggestions of treason.

After norseamd mentioning Kissinger, reading up on some of that, it really brings into question what this Iran deal might be. That's the key to understanding everything, what is the deal Obama is negotiating with Iran?

This is where the "fill in the missing gaps" part comes into play. Because I could totally see this administration shifting alliances and trying to partner closer with Iran. The middle-east is a region out of control, and the past 14 years we have thoroughly proven the west is not capable of constraining the violence. Perhaps a condition of such an alliance requires that we throw Israel under the bus. This administration conducted an analysis that concluded in 2012 with the title "Preparing for a Post Israel Middle East".

Depending on what this deal is with Iran, I could totally see such a reaction from Israel, and in turn such reaction from congressman who believe strong ties with Israel is the proper course.

It all depends on what the deal is with Iran, something that none of us know the specifics, yet we are tasked at figuring out who we should be angry & pissed off at.

 

[cubby1223]

They would rather side with Bibi, Putting[sic] and anyone else besides our own President.

Nobody in congress is siding with Putin. This has been discussed on more than enough occasions already on this forum.

 

[Mxylplyx]

yet we are tasked at figuring out who we should be angry & pissed off at.

This statement is a tell-tale sign that someone is a reactionary conservative, likely consuming a steady dose of fox news and breitbart. Nobody tasked you with such a thing. You have been immersed in such a reactionary political discourse for so long that you dont even realize there is another way.

 

[HomerJS]

Nobody in congress is siding with Putin. This has been discussed on more than enough occasions already on this forum.

Yes they did. Obviously you refused to watch the clips

 

[cubby1223]

This statement is a tell-tale sign that someone is a reactionary conservative, likely consuming a steady dose of fox news and breitbart. Nobody tasked you with such a thing. You have been immersed in such a reactionary political discourse for so long that you dont even realize there is another way.

Wrong and wrong But thanks for choosing me to be a target of your ill words

As an example of what I'm referring to, let me highlight your earlier post in this thread:

It is about time that Israel get slapped back down into their rightful place, which is their collective noses planted firmly up our ass. Netanyahu's thirst for power has done more damage to the Isreali state than Iran ever could.

 

[cubby1223]

Yes they did. Obviously you refused to watch the clips

We've all seen them. You misinterpret them because you enjoy the laughs. Nobody in congress is supporting Putin. End of story.

 

[irishScott]

I re-read the article again today, there is a lot of speculation, and a lot of people are filling in missing gaps of the story with their own personal take on the overall situation, hence the suggestions of treason.

After norseamd mentioning Kissinger, reading up on some of that, it really brings into question what this Iran deal might be. That's the key to understanding everything, what is the deal Obama is negotiating with Iran?

This is where the "fill in the missing gaps" part comes into play. Because I could totally see this administration shifting alliances and trying to partner closer with Iran. The middle-east is a region out of control, and the past 14 years we have thoroughly proven the west is not capable of constraining the violence. Perhaps a condition of such an alliance requires that we throw Israel under the bus. This administration conducted an analysis that concluded in 2012 with the title "Preparing for a Post Israel Middle East".

Depending on what this deal is with Iran, I could totally see such a reaction from Israel, and in turn such reaction from congressman who believe strong ties with Israel is the proper course.

It all depends on what the deal is with Iran, something that none of us know the specifics, yet we are tasked at figuring out who we should be angry & pissed off at.

To a point. We have plenty of mechanisms in place to deal with an overreaching or incompetent executive if the deal Obama was making would have been bad for America. Pretty much all of those mechanisms would have to be proven useless before I'd consider acting domestically on clandestine information from another nation, and keeping said security leaks secret, valid.

 

[HomerJS]

We've all seen them. You misinterpret them because you enjoy the laughs. Nobody in congress is supporting Putin. End of story.

Bullshit. Rudy Giuliani gave an interview where he admired how quickly Putin makes decisions and executes

“Putin decides what he wants to do and does it in half a day. He makes a decision and executes it quickly and everybody reacts. That’s what you call a real leader"

Partial list of Putin lovers

Mike Rogers
Charles Krauthammer
Louie Gohmert
Sarah Palin


You can't just pull the GOP tact of just saying stuff and hoping it sticks.