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norseamd

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Then why isn't Israel attacking the West Bank? So much for your argument. Think next time.

Then why are all of you blaming Palestinians for this with some giant brush of vitriol?

And the only thing stopping the Israelites from committing mass genocide in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank is the resulting fallout of reputation. The Israelis slaughter a ship load of American sailors and what do you guys say of it? Nothing.
 
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norseamd

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And then if your comment was even possibly true based off of any underlying point then why are the Israeli fundamentalist stealing the West Bank with illegal settlements?
 

Phynaz

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Then why are all of you blaming Palestinians for this with some giant brush of vitriol?

And the only thing stopping the Israelites from committing mass genocide in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank is the resulting fallout of reputation. The Israelis slaughter a hip load of American sailors and what do you guys say of it? Nothing.

Where did I blame the Palestinians?

And since the West Bank is land locked how in world would a ship load of sailors be involved?

Seriously, use your head.
 

norseamd

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group) Just saying.

yep

Something I was thinking about earlier in the day was the massive fighting that Israeli fundamentalists were involved in when the area was still the British Protectorate in the early timeframe of the 20th century. Another thing to remember is that these Israeli hardliners were going to poison all of the German population with their water supplies but many here on this forum would never acknowledge the fact. They did end up poisoning thousands of German war veterans. They only did not carry out the massive genocide of Germans because of failure of the operation instead of any humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakam
 

werepossum

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yep

Something I was thinking about earlier in the day was the massive fighting that Israeli fundamentalists were involved in when the area was still the British Protectorate in the early timeframe of the 20th century. Another thing to remember is that these Israeli hardliners were going to poison all of the German population with their water supplies but many here on this forum would never acknowledge the fact. They did end up poisoning thousands of German war veterans. They only did not carry out the massive genocide of Germans because of failure of the operation instead of any humanity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakam
Ah, Jews poisoning the water supply. Always nice to hear the classics.
 
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You are right - people who lost their land to illegal occupation should just sit there and take it.

So, if someone ever takes over your land, you will just let it happen. Good to know,.. where do you live again?

I've never understood this rationale. I don't know enough about the conflict to make an educated backing of either side, but I do know that you only own what you can enforce by the end of a gun.

If a guy comes up to me and sticks a gun in my face and says he's taking my car, it's his. I'm not going to debate how it's wrong for him to take it, and that it's illegal. And he can keep it until someone else comes along with a bigger gun or force to take it for themselves. How the world has always been, how it always will be.

What is "right" is pretty irrelevant. You only own what you can defend by force.
 

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norseamd

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Also to refer to the Jews as Israelis is probably wrong since it seems that nonjewish ethnicities and religions including Samaritans who are Israelis but not Jews are often discriminated against by the Jews.
 

crashtech

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If Israel is as bad as about half the participants here claim it to be, I wonder why they have never finished the job? Do they just lack the nerve, or what? I've been sick of this conflict my whole life, I don't even care who wins anymore. Just let it end, please.
 
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Ah, Jews poisoning the water supply. Always nice to hear the classics.

"But the Avengers did not confine themselves to individual executions. Their largest operation was aimed at Stalag 13, a detention centre for former SS men in Nuremberg. The Vengeance group discovered that bread for the detainees was supplied by a single bakery. One of their younger members, Arye Distel, who had blue eyes and Aryan looks, got a job as a trainee baker, then worked up a plan to poison one morning's consignment of loaves.

Once they had got hold of the lethal fluid - which they codenamed "medication" - Distel smuggled it over several days into the bakery, stashing the bottles under the floorboards. Harmatz describes how, on a Saturday, at the change of shift, three extra comrades crept inside to join Distel, and together they brushed the poison on to some 3,000 loaves.

Did it work? Just check the New York Times for April 20 1946, where on page six you will find an Associated Press report that begins as follows: "Nineteen hundred German prisoners of war were poisoned by arsenic in their bread early this week in a United States camp and all are 'seriously ill', United States headquarters announced tonight." How many of those SS men actually died following the poisoning at Stalag 13 has never been verified, but some put the figure at several hundred, others at a thousand.

And yet that effort was a mere Plan B, a fall-back for a larger and more terrifying scheme. Kovner and the hardcore of the Vengeance group planned to inflict on Germany not the targeted killing of guilty men, but the same fate the Nazis had inflicted on the Jews: indiscriminate killing on a massive scale.

Their chosen method was the poisoning of the water supply of five German cities. Cohen says the targets were Munich, Berlin, Weimar, Nuremberg and Hamburg, and before long the Avengers had placed workers inside the cities' water filtration plants. Harmatz recalls days and nights studying blueprints of waterworks, working out how to avoid shutting off the supply to American residential areas, ensuring only Germans were struck. "Everything was in place, waiting for permission to proceed," he writes."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/26/second.world.war
 

JEDIYoda

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you and the media keep repeating this lie.
it is the israeli forces using Palestinians as human shields
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/surviv...estinians.html

Sorry to pop your bubble but that is a news blog and they are very pro-Palestinian and anti-semitic! Very hard to trust anything they put out....as being 100% truthful...they are not exactly Time magazine or a main stream source of news......
 

JEDIYoda

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Hamas is certainly no hero, but when you are a subjugated, occupied, and captive population with no access to necessary resources, who do you vote for?<-- you don`t vote for Hamas who continues with the subjugation....hmmm

--The people that offer to provide many of these resources, actually fulfill these promises; while also doing rather bad things with the purported goal of protecting you<-- ahh..you mean diverting the best of food and drink and cement of building materials for the building of tunnels and missiles......leaving the Palestinains with hardly anything.....--
Or the people that promise nothing--or promise help and deliver nothing--and either commit terrible acts, or no acts against the people occupying your home and preventing your access to these resources?<-- HAMAS well Hamas....

This is probably difficult for you to understand, as you have the "god-granted luxury" of not being born in an occupied nation. <--- you really have no clue what you speak of.....I have lived in Israel as a child and have extensively traveled for the US Government in that part of the world going on over 30 years....
Shalom!!
 

norseamd

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Sorry to pop your bubble but that is a news blog and they are very pro-Palestinian and anti-semitic! Very hard to trust anything they put out....as being 100% truthful...they are not exactly Time magazine or a main stream source of news......

Who are you to talk about bias and propaganda?
 

OutHouse

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"But the Avengers did not confine themselves to individual executions. Their largest operation was aimed at Stalag 13, a detention centre for former SS men in Nuremberg. The Vengeance group discovered that bread for the detainees was supplied by a single bakery. One of their younger members, Arye Distel, who had blue eyes and Aryan looks, got a job as a trainee baker, then worked up a plan to poison one morning's consignment of loaves.

so whats your point?