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norseamd

norseamd

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cabri said:
Who is they, the IDF or the villagers that came under fire? If the locals were being used as human shields; it would be Hamas militants that were firing at the IDF through the villagers.
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Are you some type of ignorant dumbass?
 
werepossum

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Raizinman said:
Great, let's get 20 or 30 civilians to march in front of the army, because people like you would never shoot a civilian. Perhaps you as a civilian would like to volunteer first? This is exactly what the Palestinians do. They put their women and children in front of the rock throwers or shooters for protection. And then when a woman or child gets shot or hurt, they make all the TV news on how bad the Israelis are.

Once a woman or child take a role in being a combatant, they are fair game. In the Vietnam war, the North Vietnamese would dress as civilians to infiltrate our own army. What did we do? We killed about 100,000 civilians, or they could have been army. Children were also used heavily during this war too. Tell our troops that we should have done nothing and have been killed instead.
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I largely agree, but it's worth pointing out that many Palestinians are killed or maimed while simply minding their own business. I have zero sympathy for those killed while standing around cheering as the Palestinians launch rockets and mortars, but for the others, where are they going to go? Hamas is their elected government; Hamas and its rockets and mortars are literally everywhere, hidden amongst the civilians.
 
MongGrel

MongGrel

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networkman said:
Either you happen to believe in the same vision as Hamas or you're simply a tool for them.

Either way, you're wrong, and the sooner Israel eliminates the threat the sooner the populace of both sides can enjoy relative peace.
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This, more or less atm, and the people backing Hamas.
 
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Newell Steamer said:
You are right - people who lost their land to illegal occupation should just sit there and take it.

So, if someone ever takes over your land, you will just let it happen. Good to know,.. where do you live again?
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no, they should not elect a leadership that sacrifices them every 2 years and dooms them to a life of sufferring.

I live in Israel, BTW. all of this is happening 30 miles from my house. and now i'm going to sleep while the Iron Dome keeps me safe.
 
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norseamd

norseamd

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Well I agree that Hamas is not any representation of worth but this war is very much started by the Israelites.
 
MongGrel

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Borealis7 said:
no, they should not elect a leadership that sacrifices them every 2 years and dooms them to a life of sufferring.

I live in Israel, BTW. all of this is happening 30 miles from my house. and now i'm going to sleep while the Iron Dome keeps me safe.
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:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
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cabri

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norseamd said:
Well I agree that Hamas is not any representation of worth but this war is very much started by the Israelites.
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Israel going after (searching for) people in the West Bank is justification for the rain of rockets from Gaza?
 
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cabri

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norseamd said:
And who are you to criticize the Palestinians for electing poor politicians?
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Gaza overwhelmingly elected Hamas to represent them. Then how can they complain about the results?

The residents cheer for when the rockets are launched; yet they complain about retaliation by Israel.

they know their houses are being used for munition storage then wonder why they are being targeted.

Are they that naive to think that Israel will still stand and take abuse?
 
norseamd

norseamd

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cabri said:
Gaza overwhelmingly elected Hamas to represent them. Then how can they complain about the results? The residents cheer for when the rockets are launched; yet they complain about retaliation by Israel. they know their houses are being used for munition storage then wonder why they are being targeted. Are they that naive to think that Israel will still stand and take abuse?
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I think the point of that statement was lost on you!
 
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Newell Steamer said:
You are right - people who lost their land to illegal occupation should just sit there and take it.

So, if someone ever takes over your land, you will just let it happen. Good to know,.. where do you live again?
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If I first attack then get my ass handed to me I deserve to have my land taken over.
 
Kadarin

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The Palestinians elected Hamas, therefore they deserve worse than they're getting. Fuck them, I have no sympathy.
 
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piasabird

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I think Israel should attack the source of the rockets. Some country rich with oil is probably paying for all these rockets and munitions. My guess is Syria and Iran have a lot to do with this. Last time Israel attacked Lebanon, they found Iranian Troops mixed in with the terrorists helping them to kill the IDF more efficiently. When that happened I felt that Israel should have attacked Iran because that was the country helping and supplying the terrorists. It does absolutely no good to kill the terrorists if you don't cut off their supply of money and armaments. More terrorists will be recruited by countries like Iran. It is like you have to cut off the head of the snake before it crushes you.

I don't really have any good solutions. All I see is the results or affects of teaching people to hate and commit murder.

I don't see any good or easy solutions. I know that people being controlled by the terrorists all fear for their life at the hand of the terrorists and militias and also they fear the IDF. If they speak out the terrorists will just kill them. To me it just seems like islamist terrorists just want to kill people. In Iraq the different Factions of Muslims also killed each other. Hate and envy brings only death.
 
norseamd

norseamd

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Phynaz said:
Cool. Hopefully they level another tomorrow. And again the next day.
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You see if this was actually about Hamas deserving it then we would not get comments like this. But this is in fact about idolizing apartheid egotism and oppression.
 
norseamd

norseamd

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piasabird said:
I think Israel should attack the source of the rockets. Some country rich with oil is probably paying for all these rockets and munitions. My guess is Syria and Iran have a lot to do with this. Last time Israel attacked Lebanon, they found Iranian Troops mixed in with the terrorists helping them to kill the IDF more efficiently. When that happened I felt that Israel should have attacked Iran because that was the country helping and supplying the terrorists. It does absolutely no good to kill the terrorists if you don't cut off their supply of money and armaments. More terrorists will be recruited by countries like Iran. It is like you have to cut off the head of the snake before it crushes you. I don't really have any good solutions. All I see is the results or affects of teaching people to hate and commit murder. I don't see any good or easy solutions. I know that people being controlled by the terrorists all fear for their life at the hand of the terrorists and militias and also they fear the IDF. If they speak out the terrorists will just kill them. To me it just seems like islamist terrorists just want to kill people. In Iraq the different Factions of Muslims also killed each other. Hate and envy brings only death.
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Maybe if they did SF missions in the Gaza strip under the cover of the nighttime we might not get all of these civilian casualties. But the fundamentalist leadership of the Israelites do not care.
 
Phynaz

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norseamd said:
You see if this was actually about Hamas deserving it then we would not get comments like this. But this is in fact about idolizing apartheid egotism and oppression.
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Then why isn't Israel attacking the West Bank?

So much for your argument. Think next time.
 
norseamd

norseamd

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cabri said:
Israel going after (searching for) people in the West Bank is justification for the rain of rockets from Gaza?
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Show me a exact description of the occurances between the loss of the 3 boys and when Hamas started to fire all of those rockets.
 
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