Israel Launches Ground Invasion of Gaza Strip

[Abwx]

5 palestinians killed by a tank including a 5 months toddler....

The supremacist usurpatory state is so desesperated by its lack of legitimacy that it need to kill at the most despicable level one human could imagine, to show that it has sovereignty over the land he stolen, such that i wonder if the israelis deserve the human being status, actualy they are not only thieves, they are a sadistic people who do ritual sacrifices as an exorcism to escape its own cowardise, evilness and illegitimacy.

The Palestinians do not respect Israel's force. Israel plays the civilized adult and the Palestinians expect their restraint. They bank on it. If the Israelis did not restrain themselves the Palestinians would have to face that they can't stop Israel.

Drink as much as you want your zionists fairy kool aid tales but just spare the intelligent people its effect and the delirium it create on an already IQ starved brain....

 

[Newbian]

More suffering in store for the innocent Palestinians, who already live a daily life of suffering and humiliation.

Ehhh if they accept it then they clearly they like what happens.

Maybe it's time for them to stop the problem instead of being part of the problem.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It not a requirement, and just screaming Obama! like an idiot lowers your validity in any conversation IMHO.

Unless you like being viewed a brainless dolt.

I did that with tongue in cheek. But thanks for playing.

 

[Abwx]

Ehhh if they accept it then they clearly they like what happens.

Maybe it's time for them to stop the problem instead of being part of the problem.

In short one enter your house, take you at gun point and tell you to do what he wants unless you prefer to have your brain raosted, wich is the case anyway , say roasted a little more, you do what he wants, in fear that he also kill your kids, and since you accept it it s obvious that you like it, that is, the guy with the gun is acting in all legality now....

Can people be that stupid.?.

 

[Newbian]

unless you prefer to have your brain raosted, wich is the case anyway , say roasted a little more,

Can people be that stupid.?.

Judging by what you say then yes I think some people can be that stupid.

 

[Abwx]

Judging by what you say then yes I think some people can be that stupid.

Yes, undoubtly, since i wouldnt had guessed that there was to be a second exemple on the row..

 

[norseamd]

You might be surprised. While Obama obviously dislikes Israel, he's also the one who formally requested (to Congress) that we help fund Iron Dome. From Israel's standpoint, that's not to be taken lightly.

And because of the cool attitude of Obama towards Israel they will never acknowledge any contributions from him to the Israelites. They are ignorant and selfish and we have always known that despite our huge support for them they will never truly have any loyalty to us or any other country for that matter in fact.

 

[davmat787]

So you think that retaliation is what's going to get them to stop firing, and that the problem is that they haven't been disciplined enough to learn their lesson. Yeah, I'm the jackass I guess.

Fortunately, these acts of retaliation are free, in every sense of the word.

But Israel did stop firing, for 6 hours after agreeing to the Egypt proposal. Of course Hamas continued firing rockets during this time, and refused the Egyptian proposal.

Add to that the incredibly long history of this conflict and Hamas' stated intention of destroying Israel what do you propose the Israelis do today? Your foolproof Iron Dome and all the other things and money it would take to completely ignore Hamas isn't a reality.

So again, what do you propose Israel do today? And it's very telling that you place the onus on them, as if you are admitting Hamas isn't capable of simply ending the rocket attacks and acting like adults.

 

[PingviN]

In short one enter your house, take you at gun point and tell you to do what he wants unless you prefer to have your brain raosted, wich is the case anyway , say roasted a little more, you do what he wants, in fear that he also kill your kids, and since you accept it it s obvious that you like it, that is, the guy with the gun is acting in all legality now....

Can people be that stupid.?.

Except it wasn't their house. It was the Brits' house. Before that it was the Ottoman's house. Part of it belonged to Egypt and Jordan.

 

[Exophase]

But Israel did stop firing, for 6 hours after agreeing to the Egypt proposal. Of course Hamas continued firing rockets during this time, and refused the Egyptian proposal.

Yes, they're violent idiots who can't even accept a cease fire for a few hours. I don't deny that at all. The salient question is if retaliation is going to make them less violent. Some of you think that if they suffer enough casualties that eventually they'll turn on their terrorists. I don't. I think if the plan is to end this with retaliation Israel had better be prepared to wipe them out entirely (and of course I don't want that to happen, before anyone says so)

Add to that the incredibly long history of this conflict and Hamas' stated intention of destroying Israel what do you propose the Israelis do today? Your foolproof Iron Dome and all the other things and money it would take to completely ignore Hamas isn't a reality.

Okay, let me repeat what I said.

I wish something like the Iron Dome could be effective to the point where Israel could just ignore the rocket attacks instead of retaliating.

A wish. Not a statement of reality. I'm clearly recognizing that it's not foolproof. That's not a proposal of anything. That's a statement, that I wish Israel had the resources and ability to render the attacks completely ineffective.

Of course, I could also wish the attacks would just stop, but that's actually the far less realistic of the two.

 

[Exophase]

The supremacist usurpatory state is so desesperated by its lack of legitimacy that it need to kill at the most despicable level one human could imagine, to show that it has sovereignty over the land he stolen, such that i wonder if the israelis deserve the human being status, actualy they are not only thieves, they are a sadistic people who do ritual sacrifices as an exorcism to escape its own cowardise, evilness and illegitimacy.

I don't know where you get off condemning Israeli people as viewing Palestinians as subhuman, then speaking such things against all Israelis yourself. They don't all collectively take a vote on every military action made. I have Israeli relatives and for you to say that they don't deserve the status of human and all of the other vile things you've said, all because of their citizenship, is really disgusting. And I assume this applies to Arab Israelis too, right?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

More suffering in store for the innocent Palestinians, who already live a daily life of suffering and humiliation.

The "innocent" Palestinians voted Hamas in and thereby picked their current fate. If they don't like the suffering and humiliation, maybe they should dump Hamas and choose a governing faction that won't subject them to that fate?

 

[zanejohnson]

i hope all the people that are for building a wall on the Mexican border, are paying attention..

because, this, is exactly how it would look if we were to take that retarded...and i say retarded, because it is, it would retard everyone involved, we'd have daily rockets, we'd need an iron dome, and the friendly mexicans down the street would still act exactly the same.....for while, until they turned on us, and there's your real apartheid...

this is why we can never, ever secure our border, or build a fucking apartheid wall.... Israel did, and it's only a matter of time until either they.

a. start world war III by dragging us deeper into this....if you haven't noticed, there's a long game being played here that can be transformed into a really quick real serious situation, like draft in the USA serious... we need to stay far away, Israel needs to stop, they are 100 percent expecting us to back everything they do....... and what about Ukraine???

or.

b. tear down that wall.

i'm not really a doomtard, or conspiracy theorist too awful much, but what i'm seeing happening now... is either gonna accelerate quickly/escalate quickly.

or Israel's gotta tear down that wall... or allow some sort of two state solution with no wall.

 

[Zaap]

i hope all the people that are for building a wall on the Mexican border, are paying attention..

Not that I'm in favor of building border walls (rather just enforcing our immigration laws like any other country does) but... holy crap that was a blitheringly dumb post.

First off... there are border walls between the US and Mexico, about 600 miles worth. 2nd... that has nothing what-so-ever to do with the situation between Israel and the Palestinians.

Take your meds next time before you post.

 

[davmat787]

Yes, they're violent idiots who can't even accept a cease fire for a few hours. I don't deny that at all. The salient question is if retaliation is going to make them less violent. Some of you think that if they suffer enough casualties that eventually they'll turn on their terrorists. I don't. I think if the plan is to end this with retaliation Israel had better be prepared to wipe them out entirely (and of course I don't want that to happen, before anyone says so)



Okay, let me repeat what I said.



A wish. Not a statement of reality. I'm clearly recognizing that it's not foolproof. That's not a proposal of anything. That's a statement, that I wish Israel had the resources and ability to render the attacks completely ineffective.

Of course, I could also wish the attacks would just stop, but that's actually the far less realistic of the two.

I fully realize your irondome wish comment was made with you realizing it is not realistic. What I am trying to ask is what would you have Israel do in reality? Sorry if it seemed like I was being rude, probably worded my previous post wrong.

And why do you place the entire burden on Israel to do something different and not Hamas? I think that is very revealing, and am merely curious as to your reasoning.

Simply wondering what you propose Israel do when constrained by reality. Thanks.

 

[Harabec]

I hope for 2 things right now:
1. As few civilian casualties as possible. As werepossum noted this is what drives the never-ending hatred between two warring factions for generations, all over the world.
2. Perhaps we would take the time to finish off Hamas and let the PA have authority over the Gaza strip once again. Perhaps we can then finally move on to a long term agreement\peace including the West Bank and have some sort of normal life for everyone in this hot and humid puddle.

 

[tommo123]

Go Israel!!

Now kill many of those bastards as you can

i wonder how you'd feel if someone posted here cheering the death of the 3 israeli teens and cheered that on - "kill many of those bastards as you can" :whiste:

 

[sandorski]

Good. Hopefully this time Israel finishes the job

There will never be a "this time".

 

[badb0y]

You want the rockets to stop? You have to wipe out the Palestinians completely because no population in wolrd is going to accept living in an apartheid state with it's borders blockaded and illegal settlements on their land.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

More suffering in store for the innocent Palestinians, who already live a daily life of suffering and humiliation.

When you fire 1500 rockets into a neighbor that is militarily much stronger than you are...and when this same type of activity has been occurring repeatedly for decades...you should be thankful that you still have a life at all.

The choice for the innocent Palestinians is clear. They must take up arms against Hamas and rid themselves of Hamas.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

More suffering in store for the innocent Palestinians, who already live a daily life of suffering and humiliation.

When you fire 1500 rockets into a neighbor that is militarily much stronger than you are...and when this same type of activity has been occurring repeatedly for decades...you should be thankful that you still have a life at all.

The choice for the innocent Palestinians is clear. They must take up arms against Hamas and rid themselves of Hamas. Hamas is essentially holding them hostage. Easier said than done, I know.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

So you think that retaliation is what's going to get them to stop firing, and that the problem is that they haven't been disciplined enough to learn their lesson.

When they are dead they will be unable to fire the rockets. So, yes, successful retaliation (definitively killing your opponent) would stop the rocket attacks.

This action by Hamas has the ultimate goal of driving a wedge between the U.S. and Israel. Hamas knows those missiles will not do enough damage to destroy Israel. What the rocket attacks do however is turn public opinion against Israel when they retaliate by hitting launch sites.... which happen to be near civilians.

Sadly, many bleeding heart types are complete morons who fail to understand the concept of self-defense. I wonder if they would call for peace with Mexico if the Mexican government lobbed 150,000 rockets (a number coarsely adjusted for proportion) at U.S. cities.

 

[Abwx]

Except it wasn't their house. It was the Brits' house. Before that it was the Ottoman's house. Part of it belonged to Egypt and Jordan.

Alsace, a french region, was disputed several times with germany, whatever the country that held sovereignty none questionned private property, neither the turks nor the bristish questionned the palestinians and other inhabitants private property, that s what you fail to understand, that israel is by the definition a rogue state in this matter.

Now kkkeep on posting according to your obvious supremacist ideology, i always suspected that supremacists are untalented people and they all show it in this thread, first is no intellectual talent.

 

[tommo123]

When they are dead they will be unable to fire the rockets. So, yes, successful retaliation (definitively killing your opponent) would stop the rocket attacks.



Sadly, many bleeding heart types are complete morons who fail to understand the concept of self-defense. I wonder if they would call for peace with Mexico if the Mexican government lobbed 150,000 rockets (a number coarsely adjusted for proportion) at U.S. cities.

in that situation the US gov would be justified attacking military targets but not just random bombings of civilian areas

 

[Abwx]

I don't know where you get off condemning Israeli people as viewing Palestinians as subhuman, then speaking such things against all Israelis yourself. They don't all collectively take a vote on every military action made. I have Israeli relatives and for you to say that they don't deserve the status of human and all of the other vile things you've said, all because of their citizenship, is really disgusting. And I assume this applies to Arab Israelis too, right?

Laws in a country are not only written laws, those who have a juridical background know that there are laws by the virtue of customs, for instance when an afro american is discriminated (under any pretenses) continuously when he seeks works then it means that there is part of a society that is enforcing a law that is not written and wich say that afro american shouldnt be employed and should be kept in misery.

Israelis are applying thoses non written but fully applied laws aginst the palestinians and it is obvious that their customs laws are to treat palestinians as sub humans using ruthlessness , lies and all traits that describe an hypocritical people that hide its despicability under a wall of propaganda.

For me people acting this way rightfully deserve the term untermenshen that they apply to said subjugated people, in short, i give them their own medecine, that is, since they do not recognize fundamental rights of a population, why should i recognize them the human status, the very status that they are refusing to grant others..??.