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Israel launches air strike into Syria

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Charles Kozierok

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As they say, let the games begin.

It's not a broad campaign but these things do have a way of spiralling out of control. Hopefully that won't happen.

I do think this is one place where Israel can play a useful proxy role for the US, perhaps earning it some of the unconditional love it's been receiving in recent years.
 
well to me they seem just sorties to destroy weapon caches that armed groups may inherit.
I don't think this will spiral out of control, but it might intensify if the regime falls and they try to transfer the weapons to hezbollah.
 
well to me they seem just sorties to destroy weapon caches that armed groups may inherit.
I don't think this will spiral out of control, but it might intensify if the regime falls and they try to transfer the weapons to hezbollah.
 
Anarchist420 said:
I read this last night I wasn't sure if it was true because of the source.

Perhaps/perhaps not this is to remove Assad.
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My assessment is this-

There appears to be a consensus that Syria is fielding chemical weapons. The US believe this but does not want to be seen as being directly involved militarily. Israel is our ally and has concerns about syrian support of it's weapons, which may include sarin etc. Israel is relatively immune to criticism, being on the most hated list anyway. So the US and Israel benefit by Israel's actions. I can't say if the US is complicit, but I expect the government to be quietly thankful. If I'm correct expect little rebuke from the administration.
 
No one around the world gives a damn about Syria or its citizens (not enough to act). We have no intention of doing anything over there or helping any side of the conflict.

The bombing was directed at munitions that could/would go over to Lebanon, which does concern us. Other than that, they're welcome to kill each other all day long. Neither Assad or the rebels are our "friends".
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
My assessment is this-

There appears to be a consensus that Syria is fielding chemical weapons. The US believe this but does not want to be seen as being directly involved militarily. Israel is our ally and has concerns about syrian support of it's weapons, which may include sarin etc. Israel is relatively immune to criticism, being on the most hated list anyway. So the US and Israel benefit by Israel's actions. I can't say if the US is complicit, but I expect the government to be quietly thankful. If I'm correct expect little rebuke from the administration.
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^^^ My first thought as well.
 
Harabec said:
Other than that, they're welcome to kill each other all day long. Neither Assad or the rebels are our "friends".
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This is where you become quite immoral. The majority killed and wounded are civilians. You may not discount that in your attempt to portray the effects of warfare only upon that of the engaged belligerents. That the expressed desire is to achieve a longer standing period for extermination of population out of self concerned perceptions of them not being "friendly" is argumentatively unrecoverable. You have an option here to re-express your words.

The civil war in Syria continues to leave few if any viable options for external interference to promote a resolution. That there is no easy answer does not excuse those in a neighbouring state to relish in the killing and displacement of a population, unless one has the immoral positions shared of past and long defeated states that engaged in expansionist and bigoted policies.

Destability in the region serves the long standing Israeli security meme to justify extra-territorial expansion, annexation, displacement, and control into Palestine - territory outside of well defined Israeli borders, as recognised by all countries but Israel. The longer a civil war in Syria continues, or active militantism in Gaza, and Lebanon, the longer a sideshow of a smokescreen exists to delay reconciliation and resolution with the occupied Palestinians. A Syrian civil war is currently played as a strategic godsend to the government of the State of Israel.
 
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I know precisely what is going on there. I was watching it through my camera's 200mm lens a couple of weeks ago during a trip to the Golan Heights.

Immoral how? We don't live in heaven. We live in real life, where that country is an enemy, simple as that. You are free to assume the worst and make up things like how I'd like every innocent citizen there to burn and die and what not.
When you're done, make yourself aware of the fact that Assad and the rebels represent two fighting forces. Yes, they are welcome to beat each other up. No, there is no logical connection to "population extermination".
 
I heard the attack was on a convoy or storage depot of advanced rockets bound for Hesbollah. If so, I would think the strike perfectly justified.
 
Harabec said:
I know precisely what is going on there. I was watching it through my camera's 200mm lens a couple of weeks ago during a trip to the Golan Heights.

Immoral how? We don't live in heaven. We live in real life, where that country is an enemy, simple as that. You are free to assume the worst and make up things like how I'd like every innocent citizen there to burn and die and what not.
When you're done, make yourself aware of the fact that Assad and the rebels represent two fighting forces. Yes, they are welcome to beat each other up. No, there is no logical connection to "population extermination".
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Your two posts seem to go from saying 'no one cares about the citizens of Syria' - wrong, but maybe a criticism of what you think is happening and having some truth about *goverments'* response to the civil war - to saying that it's YOUR opinion that YOU don't care if they're killed.

Then you defend that by posting a straw man claiming that any criticism of your post is wrongly claiming you'd "like every innocent civilian" to be killed.

So the exchange is sort of like this:

"I don't care if they kill Syrian children, Syria is our enemy".

"Your position in immoral. They're children."

"You can falsely attack me as saying I hope they kill all the children horribly if you want to lie about what I said".
 
I have no problem with Israel's airstrike. I do question the idea of the US and Western world jumping into this conflict given that the ultimate outcome might not be in our best interest. Egypt toppled Mubarak on their own and sure enough voted in an Islamist government.

These are people who really want to be ruled by Islam and Sharia. Fuck no I don't want to help them.
 
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