Israel is running out of time...

Dari

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to settle the Palestinian issue. Unlike Israel, the Palestinians are having more kids than ever. For Israel, the population is around 2 kids per parent, which is less than what is needed to expand the population. Unless Israelis start having more kids, immigrate more jews in Israel, or prevent Palestinians from having more children, there will be more arabs between the Mediterranean and the Jordan Valley. As things continue apace, Palestinians will demand all of the Levant as opposed to the Bantustans or comprehensive (and continuous) land that Oslo promised.

With only 5 million jews among 300 million muslims in the ME, Israel is playing a dangerous game for her children as she continues to delay an inevitable Palestinian state.
 

Czar

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http://www.palestinechronicle.com/story.php?sid=20031124173404783
good read on exactly this subject, written by a Labor party member and a former speaker of the Israeli parliment

Do you want the greater Land of Israel? No problem. Abandon democracy. Let's institute an efficient system of racial separation here, with prison camps and detention villages. Qalqilya Ghetto and Gulag Jenin.

Do you want a Jewish majority? No problem. Either put the Arabs on railway cars, buses, camels and donkeys and expel them en masse or separate ourselves from them absolutely, without tricks and gimmicks. There is no middle path. We must remove all the settlements ? all of them ? and draw an internationally recognized border between the Jewish national home and the Palestinian national home. The Jewish Law of Return will apply only within our national home, and their right of return will apply only within the borders of the Palestinian state.

Do you want democracy? No problem. Either abandon the greater Land of Israel, to the last settlement and outpost, or give full citizenship and voting rights to everyone, including Arabs. The result, of course, will be that those who did not want a Palestinian state alongside us will have one in our midst, via the ballot box.
 

Moonbeam

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Czar, Israel seems to be moving to a one state solution just like they fear. They will arrive there by making all other options impossible.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Czar, Israel seems to be moving to a one state solution just like they fear. They will arrive there by making all other options impossible.

If that happens, then it would be a complete disaster. In today's modern world, a democracy cannot (and should not) act like another Vatican. If anything, the Israelis should declare themselves a Jewish state rather than a democracy and stop the confusion.
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Czar, Israel seems to be moving to a one state solution just like they fear. They will arrive there by making all other options impossible.

If that happens, then it would be a complete disaster. In today's modern world, a democracy cannot (and should not) act like another Vatican. If anything, the Israelis should declare themselves a Jewish state rather than a democracy and stop the confusion.

But wouldn't that realize the prophesy that the Labor party member in Czar's post was talking about? The only way to do that would be to close of Israel and expel all Arabs. Either way they would have to create a Palestinian homeland.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Czar, Israel seems to be moving to a one state solution just like they fear. They will arrive there by making all other options impossible.

If that happens, then it would be a complete disaster. In today's modern world, a democracy cannot (and should not) act like another Vatican. If anything, the Israelis should declare themselves a Jewish state rather than a democracy and stop the confusion.
But it's not a disaster now?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Czar, Israel seems to be moving to a one state solution just like they fear. They will arrive there by making all other options impossible.

If that happens, then it would be a complete disaster. In today's modern world, a democracy cannot (and should not) act like another Vatican. If anything, the Israelis should declare themselves a Jewish state rather than a democracy and stop the confusion.
But it's not a disaster now?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Czar, Israel seems to be moving to a one state solution just like they fear. They will arrive there by making all other options impossible.

If that happens, then it would be a complete disaster. In today's modern world, a democracy cannot (and should not) act like another Vatican. If anything, the Israelis should declare themselves a Jewish state rather than a democracy and stop the confusion.
But it's not a disaster now?
 

LunarRay

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I would say it is
I would say it is
I would say it is.. :D

But, then it may be by design..