Israel First Policy by the Trump/Kushner regime

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Vic

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The whole endgame is to artificially inflate oil prices by keeping Iranian oil off the market.
 
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JEDIYoda

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These Israel supporters who occupy the current US government are claiming that Iran is "saber rattling."

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/01/trump-white-house-says-its-putting-iran-on-notice.html

Well, let's see which country has killed more innocent people in the recent past. But as long as Israel's interests are met, who cares about anything.
That's an ignorant statement -- you have no clue how many innocent people Iran kills due to religious beliefs and other stupid things.
 

JEDIYoda

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Israel wants to pick a fight with Iran and then pay for the war with American blood. Trumps team will probably be happy to oblige.
Israel doesn`t need American troops......your just being goofy!! Israel mvs Iran --- no mcontest -- Isral wins! Because when the day comes it will be Israel totally unleashed....
 

JEDIYoda

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On February 15, Netanyahu will meet Trump and the issue of Iran will be discussed, of course. These two men have been focused on Iran because Israel must be the only super power of the Middle East. Anyone who challenges it, must be dealt with.

Recently Netanyahu visted the UK and pressured them to impose new sanctions on Iran.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ed-sanctions-against-iran-with-trump-iykhls2g

Mr Netanyahu returned to Israel on Monday night and headed directly for the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, for votes on the settlement bill.

"The legislation gives legal protection to 4,000 settlement homes which were built in violation of Israel’s own law, which prohibits settlers from building on land owned by Palestinian families.

Palestinians condemned the law.

"This is an escalation that would only lead to more instability and chaos. It is unacceptable. It is denounced and the international community should act immediately," said Nabil Abu Rdeneh, a spokesman for Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president

Israel’s attorney general has said he believes the law is unconstitutional and it is likely to eventually be struck down by the Israeli supreme court."
You really have no clue.....
 

momeNt

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It does not hurt to have some experience in the area.

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What's some? I don't think you have enough personally.
 

Jhhnn

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Israel doesn`t need American troops......your just being goofy!! Israel mvs Iran --- no mcontest -- Isral wins! Because when the day comes it will be Israel totally unleashed....

The Israeli tail wagged the American dog in Iraq & Syria. Armed conflict with Iran would be no different.
 
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amenx

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Israel hypes the Iran threat purely as a diversion from its illegal land grabs and settlements policies. Whenever Netanyahu vomits excess vitriol against Iran, look more closely at the news. Usually it is accompanied by announcements of new settlements or land grabs. Now with Trump in office, they felt bold enough to pass a law allowing for the confiscation of Palestinian private lands in the West Bank. They can only do this knowing they have virtually the entire U.S. political system by the balls via AIPAC and even compelling the U.S. to soil its name by providing cover at UN against international censure.

With Trump in office, the U.S. will be a far cry from its days of (relative) 'even-handedness' on the IP conflict:

UNSC Resolution 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980 [Adopted unanimously at 2203rd meeting]

Accepts the conclusions and recommendations contained in the report of the Commission of the Security Council (on settlements); determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel's policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East.

Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices and calls upon the government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem...

The above resolution was adopted unanimously back then with the U.S. as a signatory. Nothing of the sort can even remotely be possible now. As Pat Buchanan aptly put it: "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory."
 
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zinfamous

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Israel hypes the Iran threat purely as a diversion from its illegal land grabs and settlements policies. Whenever Netanyahu vomits excess vitriol against Iran, look more closely at the news. Usually it is accompanied by announcements of new settlements or land grabs. Now with Trump in office, they felt bold enough to pass a law allowing for the confiscation of Palestinian private lands in the West Bank. They can only do this knowing they have virtually the entire U.S. political system by the balls via AIPAC and even compelling the U.S. to soil its name by providing cover at UN against international censure.

With Trump in office, the U.S. will be a far cry from its days of (relative) 'even-handedness' on the IP conflict:



The above resolution was adopted unanimously back then with the U.S. as a signatory. Nothing of the sort can even remotely be possible now. As Pat Buchanan aptly put it: "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory."

AIPAC really should be expunged from the US.
 
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raildogg

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Trump is surrounded by anti-Muslim, pro-Zionist people - the majority of them.

Steve Bannon of Breitbart, Chief Strategist to Trump, is overtly anti-Muslim and believes that there is a war between Islam and Christianity. This is a lie but to appease some of the people that visit Breitbart and others, I'm sure he will say it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-anti-muslim-hate-trump_us_582df18ae4b058ce7aa9b17f

The alt-right media is anti-Islam propaganda. These people, such as Alex Jones, got Trump elected. We know where Trump stands.

Here is Alex Jones telling us how George Soros plans to "bring down US and Israel." Aren't America and Israel two separate countries? Guess not.

http://www.infowars.com/soros-launches-plan-to-bring-down-us-and-israel/

Alex Jones is the false "truther" who worked with Trump to help him get elected. Infowars is full of these alt-right people who constantly push fear porn.
 
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raildogg

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Israel hypes the Iran threat purely as a diversion from its illegal land grabs and settlements policies. Whenever Netanyahu vomits excess vitriol against Iran, look more closely at the news. Usually it is accompanied by announcements of new settlements or land grabs. Now with Trump in office, they felt bold enough to pass a law allowing for the confiscation of Palestinian private lands in the West Bank. They can only do this knowing they have virtually the entire U.S. political system by the balls via AIPAC and even compelling the U.S. to soil its name by providing cover at UN against international censure.

With Trump in office, the U.S. will be a far cry from its days of (relative) 'even-handedness' on the IP conflict:



The above resolution was adopted unanimously back then with the U.S. as a signatory. Nothing of the sort can even remotely be possible now. As Pat Buchanan aptly put it: "Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory."
Here is Democrat Steny Hoyer, Minority Whip, attacking Obama because he "betrayed" Israel. This is funny because when does giving $38 billion to Israel last year a betrayal? (Oh yeah, Obama gave $221 million to Palestinians towards the end of his term). America's double standard is noted.

It is from Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...emocratic-whip-blasts-obamas-betrayal-israel/

"As a proud leader of the bipartisan coalition in Congress in support of our ally Israel, I am extremely disappointed by this action and today’s vote. Blaming Israel for the continuation of the conflict is not only wrong and unjust; it will also do nothing to move the parties closer to a peaceful and lasting solution."

It doesn't matter, Democrat or Republican, American politicians are Israel firsters.
 
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raildogg

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-address-to-congress/?utm_term=.888a50999467

Netanyahu says:

"Iran's regime is as radical as ever, its cries of "Death to America," that same America that it calls the "Great Satan," as loud as ever.

Now, this shouldn't be surprising, because the ideology of Iran's revolutionary regime is deeply rooted in militant Islam, and that's why this regime will always be an enemy of America."

"The difference is that ISIS is armed with butcher knives, captured weapons and YouTube, whereas Iran could soon be armed with intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear bombs. We must always remember -- I'll say it one more time -- the greatest dangers facing our world is the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons. To defeat ISIS and let Iran get nuclear weapons would be to win the battle, but lose the war. We can't let that happen."

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Israel has 100+ nuclear weapons. It can deliver those nuclear weapons to far away continents. It can deliver them via air, land or sea.

But yet here we have Netanyahu constantly calling for more "action" against Iran. What is the real goal here? For all the neighboring countries to simply collapse and then Israel can reign supreme, like always?
 
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I can't wait until Trumps Son-in-law makes it out to Israel. Trump said the Palestine/Israeli problems will be solved within a few weeks.
When is he going there and when should the timer start?
 

werepossum

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Lots of anti-semites here that would just love seeing Israel burn. Apparently Jhhnn and raildogg
Surely you didn't expect this century's brownshirts to hate Jews any less than last century's brownshirts?
 

raildogg

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https://www.amazon.com/Jews-Against-Zionism-American-1942-1948/dp/1566390095

Jews Against Zionism: The American Council for Judaism, 1942-1948

"Emphasizing the purely religious nature of Judaism and unequivocally rejecting Jewish nationalism, the Council supported free Jewish immigration and equal rights for Jews throughout the world. For Palestine, specifically, it advocated establishment of a democratic state wherein all citizens, regardless of their religion, would enjoy equal political rights.

Summarizing both the history of Zionism and the history of American Jews, Kolsky traces the effects of the Holocaust on the Zionist movement and the personalities that shaped the leadership of the Council. Its position toward Zionism has particular contemporary relevance in understanding the historical relationship between Israel and the Palestinians."
 
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raildogg

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America's new ambassador to Israel, David Friedman:

"Friedman, who has no diplomatic experience, has also worked as a bankruptcy attorney for Trump for the past 15 years. He supports Israel’s Jewish-only settlements in the occupied West Bank and says he doesn’t think it would be illegal for Israel to annex the entire Palestinian territory, despite the fact that it would be blatantly illegal under international law."

"But Trump has been widely criticized for selecting Friedman. Daniel Kurtzer, who served President George W. Bush as ambassador to Israel, said, quote, "[Friedman] has made clear that he will appeal to a small minority of Israeli—and American—extremists, ignoring the majority of Israelis who continue to seek peace."

"He’s a bankruptcy lawyer, like you said. He’s the president of something called the Friends of Beit El. Beit El is a very extreme settlement in the West Bank. He raises money specifically for this settlement. That, of course, goes in the face of decades of U.S. policy, or at least, you know, their supposed policy against settlements."

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/12/19/ambassador_for_apartheid_trumps_pick_for
 
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Jhhnn

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Surely you didn't expect this century's brownshirts to hate Jews any less than last century's brownshirts?

America's hatred du jour is currently directed towards Muslims.

AIPAC owns Capitol Hill. Trump & the Repubs will give Bibi & the settlers a pass as they fuck over the Pals, again. Dems won't scream very loud because AIPAC owns Capitol Hill.

It's gotta suck being Joe Palestinian & we're on board with making it suck even harder.

But do go on with the anti-semite blather.
 
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raildogg

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Apparently, criticizing Israel might come under scrutiny:

So, the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act was introduced into the Senate a couple of weeks ago, and it passed by unanimous consent on the same afternoon as it was introduced in the morning. And this was an act that was introduced by—that AIPAC and the ADL helped introduce. And it’s, you know, the culmination of several years of attempts to legislate the definition of "anti-Semitism" to include criticism of Israel, which is an enormous free speech issue. And it’s really an attack—this is specifically how the Department of Education would define "anti-Semitism" on campuses. So what it’s really trying to do is legislate the suppression of the movement for Palestinian rights on campuses. And in some ways maybe it’s a compliment to the movement and its growing strength. But again, it’s a big—it’s a big assault on free speech and on the ability to fight for these rights. And I think that we were—we were able to organize enough opposition that it didn’t get heard in Congress, although it was introduced in the House later, and so we’ll see what happens in the next session. But these are the sorts of things that we expect to continue to see going into the Trump administration.

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/12/19/ambassador_for_apartheid_trumps_pick_for

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Freedom of speech? Nope.

Not in these times.
 
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JEDIYoda

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America's new ambassador to Israel, David Friedman:

"Friedman, who has no diplomatic experience, has also worked as a bankruptcy attorney for Trump for the past 15 years. He supports Israel’s Jewish-only settlements in the occupied West Bank and says he doesn’t think it would be illegal for Israel to annex the entire Palestinian territory, despite the fact that it would be blatantly illegal under international law."

"But Trump has been widely criticized for selecting Friedman. Daniel Kurtzer, who served President George W. Bush as ambassador to Israel, said, quote, "[Friedman] has made clear that he will appeal to a small minority of Israeli—and American—extremists, ignoring the majority of Israelis who continue to seek peace."

"He’s a bankruptcy lawyer, like you said. He’s the president of something called the Friends of Beit El. Beit El is a very extreme settlement in the West Bank. He raises money specifically for this settlement. That, of course, goes in the face of decades of U.S. policy, or at least, you know, their supposed policy against settlements."

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/12/19/ambassador_for_apartheid_trumps_pick_for
so..our misguided point??
 

1sikbITCH

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What would you like to see happen to Israel?

Plenty of normal Jews are anti-Zionist and do not subscribe to the abuse and terror they inflict on the Palestinians. They would like to see Israel gone or opened up to all people regardless of race, culture, religion, or creed. I agree with the normal Jews, not the terrorists.

Edit- by "normal" I mean not radicalized.
 

JEDIYoda

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Plenty of normal Jews are anti-Zionist and do not subscribe to the abuse and terror they inflict on the Palestinians. They would like to see Israel gone or opened up to all people regardless of race, culture, religion, or creed. I agree with the normal Jews, not the terrorists.

Edit- by "normal" I mean not radicalized.
You are so full of it........talk about false news.......you are right most Jews are anti-Zionist but you are wrong when you say -- They would like to see Israel gone or opened up to all people regardless of race, culture, religion, or creed. In fact you are trying to blow smoke......
 

FIVR

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It's true, most Israelis despise the settlements and most Jews realize that Israel itself represents an anti-semetic effort to destroy people from the middle east. I know lots of American Jews who do not believe at all in the necessity for a "jewish homeland" in Palestine any more than a "christian homeland" in the USA.


Israel is a racist apartheid, and you are an anti-semite if you believe otherwise.
 

1sikbITCH

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You are so full of it........talk about false news.......you are right most Jews are anti-Zionist but you are wrong when you say -- They would like to see Israel gone or opened up to all people regardless of race, culture, religion, or creed. In fact you are trying to blow smoke......

I'll admit to being wrong about the intent of the Jews living here. As you may have noticed I live near what I believe is still the largest and definitely the oldest Jewish community in America and so know a lot of Jewish folks.

However now that I think about it most (all) of the people that I know are secular or at the very least not Orthodox or otherwise very strict observers of the faith. So I likely don't have a representative sample of opinions. The Jewish community is very tight here and I could certainly see the Orthodox Jews and some others not wanting to share with the Christians and Muslims. They wouldn't be killing everyone over it though. Generally they just keep to themselves.
 
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