Israel Bombs Near Funeral Procession For Previous Airstrike Victims, Kills 13

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By AHMED MANTASH, Associated Press Writer

GHAZIYEH, Lebanon - Mourners in a funeral procession for Israeli airstrike victims scattered in panic Tuesday as warplanes again unleashed missiles that hit buildings and killed 13 people, witnesses and officials said.

The first missile struck a building about five minutes after the march by about 1,500 people had passed by, killing one person and wounding five.

The blast was close enough to send mourners screaming, "Allahu akbar!" or "God is great!" Some broke away from the procession, while others continued on.

They were burying some of the 15 people killed in Ghaziyeh on Monday, when Israeli airstrikes flattened three buildings in the Shiite town southeast of the port city of Sidon.

About 30 minutes after Tuesday's first airstrike, Israeli warplanes staged four more bombing runs, destroying two buildings, said Mayor Mohammed Ghaddar.

Twelve more people were killed and 18 wounded in those strikes, according to tally from three area hospitals.

Witnesses said one of the destroyed houses belonged to Sheik Mustafa Khalifeh, a cleric linked to Hezbollah, but it was unclear if he was among the casualties. Most Hezbollah officials have left their homes and offices since the offensive began nearly a month ago.

Ghaziyeh has been targeted several times, but the attacks Monday and Tuesday were the heaviest. The town was overflowing with displaced people, who have swelled its population to 23,000.

Meanwhile, diplomats at the United Nations struggled to keep a peace plan from collapsing over Arab demands for an immediate Israeli withdrawal. And military planners in Jerusalem said they will push even deeper into Lebanon to target rocket sites.

Israel declared a no-drive zone in the entire region south of Lebanon's Litani River ? 20 miles from the border ? warning residents that any vehicle on the roads would be destroyed on the assumption it was carrying Hezbollah rockets or supplies. The order left the streets of the region's main city Tyre empty and civilians in villages across the south unable to flee.

Attempts to draw a cease-fire blueprint came down to a test between a step-by-step proposal backed by Washington and Lebanon's insistence ? supported by Arab allies ? that nothing can happen before Israeli soldiers leave. In New York, Arab envoys and
U.N. Security Council members tried to hammer out a compromise.

Lebanon put its offers on the table: pledging up to 15,000 troops to a possible peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon and saying Hezbollah's days of running a state within a state would end. The military plan had added significance since it was backed by the two Hezbollah members on Lebanon's Cabinet ? apparently showing a willingness for a lasting pact by the Islamic militants and their main sponsors, Iran and Syria.

Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora on Tuesday praised Hezbollah's resistance, but said it was time for Lebanon to "impose its full control, authority and presence" over the war-weary country.

"There will be no authority, no one in command, no weapons other than those of the Lebanese state," he said on Al-Arabiya television.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the proposed Lebanese troop deployment "interesting" and said Israel would favor pulling out once it decides Hezbollah is no longer a direct threat.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the Lebanese forces "would need to be supported by international forces." He added: "It certainly is a significant proposal."

In the rocky hills of southern Lebanon, ground fighting continued in attempts to control key villages and territory near the border, including sites used for Hezbollah rocket barrages that have reached deep into Israel in the heaviest Arab-Israeli battles in 24 years.

At least 145 Hezbollah rockets hit northern Israel by midafternoon.

Israeli artillery and airstrikes pounded a broad swath of southern Lebanon from the Mediterranean coast to inland valleys ? including many areas in the Hezbollah heartland now under a blanket curfew imposed by Israel to try to choke off arms routes.

Earlier, rescuers said they retrieved one body after an airstrike in Rzoum, northeast of Tyre.

Some of the fiercest skirmishes broke out around the village of Bint Jbail, a Hezbollah stronghold that Israeli has tried to capture for weeks. An Israeli solider and 25 Hezbollah guerrillas were killed, the Israeli military said.

Hezbollah TV also reported pre-dawn attacks on Israeli forces near the Mediterranean town of Naqoura, about 2 1/2 miles north of the border. The Israeli military said two reserve soldiers were killed in the area.

The latest casualties brought the number of people killed in Lebanon to at least 684, while the Israeli death toll was 100.

In a southern suburb of Beirut, workers pulled 20 bodies from the rubble of two buildings hit by a rocket on Monday ? raising the death toll from that strike to 30. That attack came just hours after Arab League foreign ministers wrapped up a crisis meeting that threw their full diplomatic weight behind Lebanon.

It set the baseline demand for the Security Council: a full Israeli withdrawal or no peace deal is possible. The message was given in an emotional address by Saniora and carried to the U.N. by Arab League envoys.

Saniora's government voted unanimously to send 15,000 troops to stand between Israel and Hezbollah should a cease-fire take hold and Israeli forces withdraw.

The move was an attempt to show that Lebanon has the will and ability to assert control over its south, where Hezbollah rules with near autonomy bolstered by channels of aid and weapons from Iran and Syria. Lebanon has avoided any attempt to implement a two-year-old U.N. resolution calling for the disarmament of Hezbollah, fearing it could touch off civil unrest.

The coming days should offer signs on whether a cease-fire plan has a chance.

The original proposal, drafted by the United States and France, demanded a "full cessation of hostilities" on both sides and a buffer zone patrolled by Lebanese forces and U.N. troops. But the plan did not specifically call for an Israeli withdrawal. Critics said it would give room for Israeli defensive operations.

French U.N. Ambassador Jean-Marc de La Sabliere promised to take Lebanon's stance into account. But he did not say whether France was prepared to add such language to the text.

French President Jacques Chirac will interrupt his vacation to hold urgent talks Wednesday with his prime minister, defense minister and foreign minister, his office said.

Washington and Paris were expected to circulate a new draft in response to amendments proposed by Qatar, the only Arab nation on the 15-nation Security Council, and other members, diplomats said. A vote is not expected before Wednesday.

The proposed changes include a call for Israeli forces to pull out of Lebanon once the fighting stops and hand over their positions to U.N. peacekeepers. Arab states also want U.N. forces to take control of the disputed Chebaa Farms area, which Israel seized in 1967. Saniora asked for Israel to provide a full map of all land mines in southern Lebanon.

Qatar Foreign Minister Hamad bin Jassem Al Thani warned of "a civil war in Lebanon" between Hezbollah and government forces if the Security Council does not make changes to the U.S.-French draft resolution. "Lebanon won't bear it," he told Al-Jazeera.

Saniora urged Israel to consider "a different logic" of compromise. Otherwise, he said, the region can never escape violence.

"Blood draws more blood and hatred breeds more hatred," he told Al-Arabiya.

He also took a jab at Hezbollah's sponsor Syria, which ended a nearly three-decade military presence in Lebanon last year.

"Syria should get used to the fact that Lebanon is an independent state," he said, without mentioning Hezbollah's other patron, Iran.

Israel sent mixed signals. The government said it was studying Lebanon's pledge to contribute troops to a potential peacekeeping force. But Defense Minister Amir Peretz outlined plans to drive deeper into Lebanon to try to destroy Hezbollah rocket batteries, which have fired more than 3,000 into northern Israel.

A senior government official offered to pay to move up to 17,000 Israelis living in border towns.

Peretz said a new push ? expected to be approved Wednesday by Israel's Security Cabinet ? would extend as far as the Litani River.

The Israeli army said it declared an indefinite curfew on the movement of vehicles south of the Litani. Humanitarian traffic would be allowed, but other vehicles would be at risk if they ignored the order, the army said.

In Geneva, the U.N. Human Rights Council said it plans to convene a special session this week to consider taking action against Israel for its Lebanon offensive.

Associated Press writer Karin Laub in Jerusalem and Lauren Frayer in Beirut contributed to this report.

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The story about the U.N. stopping humanitarian aid can be found here. I just didn't want to overwhelm some of you guys with too much reading material at once; it usually makes your brains shut down.

"No vehicle traffic" imposed by Israel and heavy bombing mean that humantarian supplies in Southern Lebanon are dangerously low, and civilians won't be allowed to escape the region. So much for the oh-so-tired "human shield" argument that seems to be the answer for all Israeli acts of terror over the last month.

You guys think bombing empty Hezbollah official's offices is going to make a dent in their leadership? Hate to tell you this, but they're long gone out of the conflict area, well into Northern Lebanon or Syria is my guess. The Hezbollah guerrillas are definitely still in the conflict area, but they can and likely will be replaced with this much civilian blood being spilled.

Overall, a highly successful campaign for Israel. :roll: And the U.S. is spearheading the effort to cut them short.

It was definitely a nice touch for Israel to send the funeral procession scattering with their bombs. How classy is that?
 

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Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.
 

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.
 

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And you think that they targetted the funeral procession.

Makes good publicity though.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Too bad

They should have left at the beginning of the war.
 

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
And you think that they targetted the funeral procession.

Makes good publicity though.

If I thought that, the title would have read "Israel Bombs Funeral Procession", not "Israel Bombs Near Funeral Procession". Nice try though.
 

blackangst1

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JHC can we stop with a new topic for every attack in this war? It's a friggin war and poeple will die. Get over it already...
 

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Too bad

They should have left at the beginning of the war.

The interesting thing is that Israel is looking like scum for killing so many more civilians, and Hezbollah are viewed as heroes for standing up to them. This will probably result in a net increase in Hezbollah's ranks after the offensive is stopped. Israel will be the loser no matter how many more buildings they level (and so are the Lebanese people, who are losing their families and homes).
 

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
JHC can we stop with a new topic for every attack in this war? It's a friggin war and poeple will die. Get over it already...

Not everyone is numb to death and destruction, especially when it involves civilians. Sorry.
 

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
JHC can we stop with a new topic for every attack in this war? It's a friggin war and poeple will die. Get over it already...
Well think of it as a relief from the disastrous news coming out of Iraq.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Yes, we are on the verge of a large humanitarian crisis in Lebanon. With Hezbollah firing a record number of rockets this weekend, Israel must continue to tighten the vice grips around Hezbollah, which includes everyone alongside them in south Lebanon.

Curious though, if Hezbollah is still firing hundreds of rockets, how is it they remain functional while the humanitarian aid cannot? Perhaps Hezbollah should concern itself with saving and evacuating its own people instead of shooting rockets. Perhaps Hezbollah could declare a cease fire and ease their people?s suffering.

The longer they continue to wage war, the more dire the situation will become for everyone in the area.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Yes, we are on the verge of a large humanitarian crisis in Lebanon. With Hezbollah firing a record number of rockets this weekend, Israel must continue to tighten the vice grips around Hezbollah, which includes everyone alongside them in south Lebanon.

Curious though, if Hezbollah is still firing hundreds of rockets, how is it they remain functional while the humanitarian aid cannot? Perhaps Hezbollah should concern itself with saving and evacuating its own people instead of shooting rockets. Perhaps Hezbollah could declare a cease fire and ease their people?s suffering.

The longer they continue to wage war, the more dire the situation will become for everyone in the area.

Perhaps because "it's own people" ARE Hezzbollah and it's firm supporters? I guess no one ever thinks of that.
 

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The future truly is bleak for the Middle East . . . including Israel.

But this topic deserves its own thread b/c it highlights the depravity of IDF tactics.

Early targets of IDF were the airport, roads, rail, and bridges. Yet the apologists say . . . why don't you leave.

IDF targets nearly any moving vehicle. Yet the apologists say . . . why don't you leave.

IDF targets apartment buildings . . . killing mostly civilians; despite the fact rockets may be launched NEAR buildings but clearly aren't being launched FROM buildings. Yet the apologists say . . . it's a war . . . people will die . . . get over it.


For the record, Hezbollah has offered a cease-fire . . . Olmert rejected it. The longer IDF continues to wage war, the more dire the situation will become for everyone in the region.
 

Genx87

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If these places are empty, why 13 dead in the last attack?
Sounds like somebody is living in there, whoever is dumb enough to live in a house with a guy who is being targetted by the Israeli's is just proving darwinism is alive and kicking.

 

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=109521

Bombing of Funeral: False Reporting by Reuters

Hezbollah sympathizers waging war through the media, yet again.

Reuters sure is having a good week arent they? False pics, reports, ect.

24/7 news, we will figure it out sometime!

Think from now on, i will wait until the 3rd or 4th revision of a story to start to discete the information. Clearly the media is not upto the task of doing their jobs.
 

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I found Reuter?s current version of the story here:

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlene..._01_L07726695_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST.xml
Israeli air raids killed 14 people and wounded 23 in the southern village of Ghaziyeh, rescue workers and hospital officials said. The bombs fell as mourners elsewhere in the village were burying 15 people killed by a raid there on Monday.

An Israeli army spokeswoman said the building hit belonged to a senior Hizbollah member and was not near the funeral. She said all residents had been told in advance to leave.

So, do you still wish me to believe that Israel is purposefully targeting civilians? When I first read the title:
Israel Bombs Near Funeral Procession For Previous Airstrike Victims, Kills 13
I was wondering how Israel could accidentally target a funeral and I was starting to have second thoughts on what they are doing in Lebanon. Now however, it seems I shouldn't listen too closely to Hezbollah propaganda.
 

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Too bad

They should have left at the beginning of the war.

Did the Isralis warn them or threaten them?
 

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Yes, we are on the verge of a large humanitarian crisis in Lebanon. With Hezbollah firing a record number of rockets this weekend, Israel must continue to tighten the vice grips around Hezbollah, which includes everyone alongside them in south Lebanon.

Curious though, if Hezbollah is still firing hundreds of rockets, how is it they remain functional while the humanitarian aid cannot? Perhaps Hezbollah should concern itself with saving and evacuating its own people instead of shooting rockets. Perhaps Hezbollah could declare a cease fire and ease their people?s suffering.

The longer they continue to wage war, the more dire the situation will become for everyone in the area.

Perhaps because "it's own people" ARE Hezzbollah and it's firm supporters? I guess no one ever thinks of that.

So what if they are supporters? They are still civilians!!!

 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.

Anyone foolish enough. Anyone without a car. Anyone who couldn't afford price-gouging taxi fares. Anyone who didn't have money for a place to stay. Anyone who was too sick or old to be moved.

And now, the only way out of Southern Lebanon for civilians is on foot. Otherwise their car will get blown to bits.

Too bad

They should have left at the beginning of the war.

The interesting thing is that Israel is looking like scum for killing so many more civilians, and Hezbollah are viewed as heroes for standing up to them. This will probably result in a net increase in Hezbollah's ranks after the offensive is stopped. Israel will be the loser no matter how many more buildings they level (and so are the Lebanese people, who are losing their families and homes).

Looking like scum? Don't make me laugh. Only SOME of the impotent Europeans blame Israel for the crisis, the rest understand what self defense is all about. Americans seem to understand it too.

As for the Middle East, do you seriously believe ANYONE liked Israel before? If anything, those who liked Israel still like it because it looks like the only power able to defeat their corrupt, dark regimes, and the vast majority who always hated it still does, nothing new under the sun. Iran would have gotten nukes regardless of Israel's actions.

I actually think the worst thing that happend to the Middle East is the "peace" process. I mean, the peace with Jordan is a very good thing, but it has been reported that King Hussein had some informal relations with Israel already. I believe this peace would have happend anyway. That leaves us with the Palestinians - Oslo was a TOTAL failure and just ignited the region again.

No, no. Israel should go back to the tried and proven tactics of the '50s, '60s and '70s, when every Arab aggression was mean with an explicit price tag, and scums like Nassarallah had to pay for their deeds.

Really, who do you think in Israel gives a flying fcuk anymore if Arabs like him? They are brainwashed anyway, they have nothing to offer in terms of trade and science, they hold no political influence in the world anymore and their armies are falling apart. They can hate Israel for as long as they like, just make sure they know that once they translate those hostile feelings into aggressions, their country, homes and families will burn.

That's fair enough.

Israel doesn't need to apologize in front of anybody. It has solid enough military, economical and political foundations to do whats in its best interest.
 

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Lebanon is engulfed in war, anyone foolish enough not to leave should expect that the worst can happen at any time.


I bet you're one of the fools that said the same about hurricane Katrina evacuees not being able to leave.
 

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Oh my god, ANOTHER false report against Israel by the Mass Media.

There should be a new rule on this forum. No posts regarding breaking news about anything in the Middle East until 3 days after. These stories prove that any news coming out of there is untrustworthy at best.
 

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Originally posted by: Aisengard
Oh my god, ANOTHER false report against Israel by the Mass Media.

There should be a new rule on this forum. No posts regarding breaking news about anything in the Middle East until 3 days after. These stories prove that any news coming out of there is untrustworthy at best.

The stories are not the problem. It is the people who believe the first thing they read and go on the offensive that are the problem.