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Hayabusa says, " There is as much interest in punishing Israel as there is in the oil industry giving us free gas."
And what the means is only in the USA at this time. The other 95% of the world does not support Israel, and as events move, the USA is soon going to have choose between
supporting Isr5awel or losing all credibility in the larger world. At exactly the same time the USA still is somewhat on probation for the actions of GWB.
Meanwhile, the USA is still stuck in two quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan, and terrorism and anti-American feeling can be very costly if the US sides with Israel. Meanwhile the Saudis may decide to start exporting their oil East to India and China.
As for Iran, they will be in a far better negotiating position if the USA and Israel become isolated. Meanwhile the entire Arab block is moving cautiously but surely towards consensus, just at a time when Iranian and Turkish influence is rising.
But the Netanyuhu position makes it very clear that they will never agree to a Palestiniansd state and the Israeli government are basically saying they intend to retain all land captured during the 1967&73 wars. Meanwhile Egypt and Jordan are turning increasing anti-Israeli.
It may be politically expensive for Obama to oppose Israel, but its likely going to become
very politically expensive for the USA to support Isarel unlessa I miss my guess.
To me this is like an end game in chess, Netanyuhu is also playing he bets his political life on Obama backing him to the hilt. As for the American pro-Israeli press, as the the chess game moves along a month or so into the future, Israel is likely to over react, and
lose much of the American and world press.
Many inside of Israel are becoming alarmed at the gamble Netanyuhu is making, so I tend to believe events will come to a head in a month or two. Labor has already said it will pull out of the Netanyuhu coalition by the end of 2010 if not sooner, Kadima is unlikely to support Netanyuhu, and now Netanyuhu will soon face a threat from the really bat shit crazy settler parties to also collapse his government. Meanwhile, most of the world will support simply a UN declaration of a Palestinian State with its capital in East Jerusalem.
And you Hayabusa remain bullish on Israel's ability to stave off a Palestinian State??
When all events now point towards the necessity of one.
No one can predict the exact sequence of events, I hope violence can be prevented, but Israel is now losing all international credibility and becoming very isolated.
As for me, I can only say, events and not American public opinion will drive the progression. As continued one sided support fore Israel will become increasing costly to American foreign policy.
And what the means is only in the USA at this time. The other 95% of the world does not support Israel, and as events move, the USA is soon going to have choose between
supporting Isr5awel or losing all credibility in the larger world. At exactly the same time the USA still is somewhat on probation for the actions of GWB.
Meanwhile, the USA is still stuck in two quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan, and terrorism and anti-American feeling can be very costly if the US sides with Israel. Meanwhile the Saudis may decide to start exporting their oil East to India and China.
As for Iran, they will be in a far better negotiating position if the USA and Israel become isolated. Meanwhile the entire Arab block is moving cautiously but surely towards consensus, just at a time when Iranian and Turkish influence is rising.
But the Netanyuhu position makes it very clear that they will never agree to a Palestiniansd state and the Israeli government are basically saying they intend to retain all land captured during the 1967&73 wars. Meanwhile Egypt and Jordan are turning increasing anti-Israeli.
It may be politically expensive for Obama to oppose Israel, but its likely going to become
very politically expensive for the USA to support Isarel unlessa I miss my guess.
To me this is like an end game in chess, Netanyuhu is also playing he bets his political life on Obama backing him to the hilt. As for the American pro-Israeli press, as the the chess game moves along a month or so into the future, Israel is likely to over react, and
lose much of the American and world press.
Many inside of Israel are becoming alarmed at the gamble Netanyuhu is making, so I tend to believe events will come to a head in a month or two. Labor has already said it will pull out of the Netanyuhu coalition by the end of 2010 if not sooner, Kadima is unlikely to support Netanyuhu, and now Netanyuhu will soon face a threat from the really bat shit crazy settler parties to also collapse his government. Meanwhile, most of the world will support simply a UN declaration of a Palestinian State with its capital in East Jerusalem.
And you Hayabusa remain bullish on Israel's ability to stave off a Palestinian State??
When all events now point towards the necessity of one.
No one can predict the exact sequence of events, I hope violence can be prevented, but Israel is now losing all international credibility and becoming very isolated.
As for me, I can only say, events and not American public opinion will drive the progression. As continued one sided support fore Israel will become increasing costly to American foreign policy.
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