Israel approves detention center for migrants

[JohnOfSheffield]

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Lets see, FGD says I was pulling in facts from thin air and totally making things up.

But Israel has been importing i guest workers for at least a decade and a half.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=323_0_5_0

I found this on google in almost zero minutes flat, and I can post so many moire to prove its FGD is the FOS really stupid one.

FGD, do you really want me to post more links to prove my point and how may will it take?

These detention camps have to do with immigrants from Africa, no one else, it's been explained to you by three (now four) different people and you still do not get it?

Either stay on topic or piss off.

 

[SandEagle]

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Lets see, FGD says I was pulling in facts from thin air and totally making things up.

But Israel has been importing i guest workers for at least a decade and a half.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=323_0_5_0

I found this on google in almost zero minutes flat, and I can post so many more to prove its FGD is the FOS really stupid one.

FGD, do you really want me to post more links to prove my point and how many will it take to totally destroy any FGD credibility. ?

LL, why bother? u r 2 smart 4 this place. join me in AT and take a load off

 

[Freshgeardude]

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Lets see, FGD says I was pulling in facts from thin air and totally making things up.

But Israel has been importing i guest workers for at least a decade and a half.

http://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=323_0_5_0

I found this on google in almost zero minutes flat, and I can post so many more to prove its FGD is the FOS really stupid one.

FGD, do you really want me to post more links to prove my point and how many will it take to totally destroy any FGD credibility. ?

JOS above me pretty much explained what needs to be said

I want you to post EVERY SINGLE TIME you post a "fact" to try and disprove me, because you arent convincing anyone by claiming shit.

 

[Lemon law]

JOS above me pretty much explained what needs to be said

I want you to post EVERY SINGLE TIME you post a "fact" to try and disprove me, because you arent convincing anyone by claiming shit.

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In a sense, I will agree with you, I have long given up on people like FGD and JOS, who somehow want to only cherry pick links that even then don't cast Israel in a positive light.
But when JOS and FGD are confronted with the real unbiased link that show the larger true picture, FGD screams foul because I don't play their confine the real truth to only their distorted single distortion of reality link.

As for you claiming I don't convince ANYONE, that indeed remains to be judged on this forum and in more importantly in the larger world.

Pardon me FGD if I make the observation that Israeli credibility in the larger world has really taken a beating in the past decade, and there is a growing consensus in the larger world that the Israeli Pitt Bull must be muzzled, and if Israel fucks up again, the larger world will have to start dope slapping Israel, until they see reality.

As for me, I have very thick skin, I don't care if you think me a fool, what I care about is being proved correct in the end and maybe convincing a few anand tech posters in the process.

But having said all that, I stand four square for the fact that Israel CAN play a positive role in the Mid East, but with the stupid strategy Israel is now choosing under Bozo Netanyuhu, instead of Israel becoming a positive force Israel will simply prove their existence was a giant mistake, a maybe good idea in 1948, but a total giant failer experiment mistake needing corrected post 201o.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

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In a sense, I will agree with you, I have long given up on people like FGD and JOS, who somehow want to only cherry pick links that even then don't cast Israel in a positive light.
But when JOS and FGD are confronted with the real unbiased link that show the larger true picture, FGD screams foul because I don't play their confine the real truth to only their distorted single distortion of reality link.

As for you claiming I don't convince ANYONE, that indeed remains to be judged on this forum and in more importantly in the larger world.

Pardon me FGD if I make the observation that Israeli credibility in the larger world has really taken a beating in the past decade, and there is a growing consensus in the larger world that the Israeli Pitt Bull must be muzzled, and if Israel fucks up again, the larger world will have to start dope slapping Israel, until they see reality.

As for me, I have very thick skin, I don't care if you think me a fool, what I care about is being proved correct in the end and maybe convincing a few anand tech posters in the process.

I don't think you get this, the critisisms of Israel are not all that great and the other side is labeled a terrorist organisation by the entire world community.

If there is a side the world is on, it's Israels.

Your wet dream of killing Jews will never happen, you were born too late Nazi boy.

 

[CanOWorms]

Hopefully it's not an Australian-style center where the refugees are raped, killed, and tortured.

 

[Lemon law]

Don't be an idiot and a fool JOS in saying "Your wet dream of killing Jews will never happen, you were born too late Nazi boy."

If you even read my last post or other Israeli posts, my position has always been, Israel can play a positive role in the mid-east, but are damn fools to think there is any Israeli safety in building, building, and building ever higher Arab hatreds of Israel.

Not only has that fool strategy won 62 years of undiminished terrorism directed at Israel, with no end in sight, the present Israeli strategy does everything to increase and nothing to decrease the universal hatreds of Israel in the mid-east.

Long term the only viable Israeli strategy is to prove Israel can be a positive addition to the mid-east. Failing that Israel can't long term survive.

Its simply as simple as that. Longer term, the weight of a 50x population and Arab oil money, plus Israel doing everything to kite Arab hatreds can't add up to anything but a losing strategy.

Just because I oppose your stupidity, JOS, does not make me a Nazi boy, or a Taliban boy. It just shows I better understand temporary military power stupidly applied and abused has never won in the end in the entire history of the world.

Why JOS do you stubbornly think Israel or Afghanistan should be exceptions in a universal rule of world history?

 

[Zebo]

Shit that's nothing. In Saudi and Arab world they beat, rape, don't pay, and kick out Asian labor they import. Read up on that tallest building virtually build with slave labor. Saudi don't work period when I was there. Sure they have "jobs" but all managerial all the real work is done by westerners and Asians. Asian were treated like shit. One of the big reasons I left. I made damn good money too but could not stand those fuckers and I was treated good being westerner..Even had two Philippine house keepers and a Egyptian driver.

 

[Zebo]

Don't be an idiot and a fool JOS in saying "Your wet dream of killing Jews will never happen, you were born too late Nazi boy."

If you even read my last post or other Israeli posts, my position has always been, Israel can play a positive role in the mid-east, but are damn fools to think there is any Israeli safety in building, building, and building ever higher Arab hatreds of Israel.

Not only has that fool strategy won 62 years of undiminished terrorism directed at Israel, with no end in sight, the present Israeli strategy does everything to increase and nothing to decrease the universal hatreds of Israel in the mid-east.

Long term the only viable Israeli strategy is to prove Israel can be a positive addition to the mid-east. Failing that Israel can't long term survive.

Its simply as simple as that. Longer term, the weight of a 50x population and Arab oil money, plus Israel doing everything to kite Arab hatreds can't add up to anything but a losing strategy.

Just because I oppose your stupidity, JOS, does not make me a Nazi boy, or a Taliban boy. It just shows I better understand temporary military power stupidly applied and abused has never won in the end in the entire history of the world.

Why JOS do you stubbornly think Israel or Afghanistan should be exceptions in a universal rule of world history?

You're wrong. One good thing about Muslim colonization of the West is we are waking up to how fucked up they are. How intractable they are. How different they are. And will support people like us over 7th century cultists. If I were you I STFU when back lash comes.

Hell Just wait till you get waken up everyday by 5am calls to prayer over loud speakers even you might get a clue

 

[5150Joker]

Shit that's nothing. In Saudi and Arab world they beat, rape, don't pay, and kick out Asian labor they import. Read up on that tallest building virtually build with slave labor. Saudi don't work period when I was there. Sure they have "jobs" but all managerial all the real work is done by westerners and Asians. Asian were treated like shit. One of the big reasons I left. I made damn good money too but could not stand those fuckers and I was treated good being westerner..Even had two Philippine house keepers and a Egyptian driver.

I hear they treat Whites/Europeans like kings but Asians/Indians/Pakistanis like dirt as you mentioned. What really enrages me is how so many stupid people in Afghanistan and Pakistan always rally against the West in favor of these Arabs just because they share a religion. The Arabs, since before Islam and after it view non-Arabs as second class trash.

 

[Zebo]

I hear they treat Whites/Europeans like kings but Asians/Indians/Pakistanis like dirt as you mentioned. What really enrages me is how so many stupid people in Afghanistan and Pakistan always rally against the West in favor of these Arabs just because they share a religion. The Arabs, since before Islam and after it view non-Arabs as second class trash.

You're a pretty smart dude 5150 we've had our differences but you understand Arab supremacy. In so far as siding with - religion is a powerful tool especially for down trodden and the money weapon. Who's building fundi Maddrass in Pakistan? Who employs Pakistanis expats so they can feed whole family? Saudi. That's a powerful tool.

When you finish your residency&fellowship go work there. You'll see how different you are even if a coreligionist as an afghan. Your white colleagues will be treated better hell a white oil field worker will be. I don't really get the race issue in so far as that goes but all are second class compared to arab.

 

[peonyu]

Shit that's nothing. In Saudi and Arab world they beat, rape, don't pay, and kick out Asian labor they import. Read up on that tallest building virtually build with slave labor. Saudi don't work period when I was there. Sure they have "jobs" but all managerial all the real work is done by westerners and Asians. Asian were treated like shit. One of the big reasons I left. I made damn good money too but could not stand those fuckers and I was treated good being westerner..Even had two Philippine house keepers and a Egyptian driver.

Its well known that ethnic Saudi's are not treated well over there...But if its that bad for the Asian laborers there then I would hate to see the homes they left behind. Something must be better in Saudi Arabia otherwise they would not have made their personal decision to move there.

Europeans/Whites are treated well in Saudi Arabia but you have to consider the money involved. Much of the Oil infrastructure in the M.East was built by Westerners, and a large portion of Westerners over there are wealthy to begin with. Wealthier than most Saudi's easily. Its not good to generalize but in Saudi's case its possible - A White person is likely educated, has money and can directly benefit the Saudis right away. They recognize that. Asians on the other hand are seen as dirty, lazy or worse since they are not wealthy, not educated, and do work such as cleaning toilets. Crime is also commonly blamed on Asians...That doesnt justify treating Whites better than Asians over there but it is simply old-school racism in action in the M.East [which boils down to generalizing whole races of people].

 

[5150Joker]

You're a pretty smart dude 5150 we've had our differences but you understand Arab supremacy. In so far as siding with - religion is a powerful tool especially for down trodden and the money weapon. Who's building fundi Maddrass in Pakistan? Who employs Pakistanis expats so they can feed whole family? Saudi. That's a powerful tool.

When you finish your residency&fellowship go work there. You'll see how different you are even if a coreligionist as an afghan. Your white colleagues will be treated better hell a white oil field worker will be. I don't really get the race issue in so far as that goes but all are second class compared to arab.

The Saudis have been funding Wahhabism and the construction of madrasas in Pakistan/Afghanistan for quite sometime. It makes them look like benevolent benefactors to the mass illiterate over there and at the same time, they grease the palms of the corrupt politicians through money and cheap oil (I hear it's sold to Pakistan below market value often times). The question then is why do they do this? It's not simply because they share a common religion, if that were the case, SA would be putting tons of pressure to free the Palestinians or simply sponsor them to come live in their country.

Politically it helps their ruling class by having all the extremists concentrated outside of SA and what better place to exploit than a war torn country like Afghanistan. Osama recognized this after the Soviet war when he brought all his money with him along with his corrupt views. The Saudis are all about exploiting others to maintain their status quo.

Lastly, I'd never visit that shit hole after becoming a physician. I have no religious ties in common with them (I'm agnostic) and I already know how deep their racism runs based on conversations I have had with people that lived there.

 

[Lemon law]

As this thread veers into a new tangent, the pro-Israeli fan clubbers delight in demonstrating that the Saudis, also a fine US ally, may be even bigger bigots than Israel.

As a race for the bottom heats up, and somehow Israel suddenly becomes the angel when in fact both are stinking rascals.

Does any of these fine fine point debates really matter, in deciding if Israel or the Saudis are the scum of the earth bigots or which is the biggest biggest bigot and thief?

Why can't we realize they are both huge villains and both such suck and suck.

Where oh oh where is where is the revenge of who sucks more, realize they both they both sucks and who sucks more is a larely stupid side argument.