ISPs to Start Throttling Pirates, More by July 12

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Numerous ISPs including Verizon, Comcast and Time Warner are about to become copyright cops.

The largest Internet service providers in the nation are gearing up to be copyright cops after all -- within months, at that.

Cary Sherman, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America, said on Wednesday that ISPs are getting ready to seriously crack down on piracy by July 12. These ISPs include Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon, Time Warner Cable and other bandwidth providers. What they will be looking out for is music, movies and software illegally downloaded by subscribers.

The ISPs originally agreed to adopt policing policies back in July 2011, but nothing else has been said about the anti-piracy movement until Sherman's announcement on Wednesday during a panel discussion at the Association of American Publishers' annual meeting. That's because the ISPs needed a year to get everything up and running, and so far most of the participants are on track for the July 12 launch, he said.

"Each ISP has to develop their infrastructure for automating the system," Sherman said. "[They need this] for establishing the database so they can keep track of repeat infringers, so they know that this is the first notice or the third notice. Every ISP has to do it differently depending on the architecture of its particular network. Some are nearing completion and others are a little further from completion."

The anti-piracy program is called "graduate response," and requires that ISPs send out one or two educational notices to customers accused of downloading copyrighted content illegally. If the downloading still continues after the warnings, a confirmation notice is sent out to the suspected pirate, asking that they confirm receipt of the notice. They're also "educated" on the risks of further piracy.

If that still doesn't work, ISPs can then crank up the heat and go into "mitigation measures" mode. Here ISPs can choose to throttle down the connection speed among other penalties. The ISPs can waive the mitigation measure if they choose, CNET reports. So far there's no indication that customers will be kicked off the Internet entirely, but there's a good chance official announcements will be made in the next few months, providing plenty of details.
 

ImpulsE69

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This will get interesting when people start dumping their service. ISP's are out to make money too.
 

lxskllr

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How are they going to determine what is download is pirated though?

My understanding is they aren't gonna be cops so much as enforcers. Everything will work the way it always has, but there's now a protocol in place they can follow. A copyright enforcement company writes the isp, and the isp sends you a nastygram. things slowly escalate after the first nastygram.
 

Ashenor

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If you download something encrypted on newsgroups can they legally tell what it is?
 

OCGuy

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Can someone confirm if this is packet sniffing? If so, there will be a lot of people who are on 4-chan who accidentally download a thumbnail of some highly disgusting illegal shit who can get busted.............

Although the uploaders should be shot anyway.
 

Nebor

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This will get interesting when people start dumping their service. ISP's are out to make money too.

For every pirate there are 9 non-pirates that use their internet connection for checking email and watching youtube videos. The pirates aren't going to cancel their internet service, they're going to try to weasel their way through the restrictions. I wish they'd just cancel, then my Steam downloads would go faster.
 

mafia

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Can someone confirm if this is packet sniffing? If so, there will be a lot of people who are on 4-chan who accidentally download a thumbnail of some highly disgusting illegal shit who can get busted.............

Although the uploaders should be shot anyway.

I remember a few years ago talking about pirating wasn't a big deal. Now you are frowned upon even if you talk about pirating in the public, let alone, internet forums. The internet isn't the wide open west anymore. Anyways, if I was to use a BitTorrent program to transfer legal files from my server to my computer, would they consider that as pirating? Just because I used that program? And yes, packet sniffing needs to be addressed.
 

mafia

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like where most americans live.

to the tea-baggers that say "let industries regulate themselves" we already have that, and we get shafted left and right.

If internet was unregulated, we would have 50mbps reliable download services for $19.99 or less per month. It's a pity that government given monopolies fucked everything up.
 
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Government granted monopolies are not a very good example of a free market. Try again librul scum.

are you joking? it's bc of regulation that these companies are oligopolies

ROFL you 2 seem to think the government is not made up of industrial players and their cronies. drawing a distinction between industry and government is outdated at best, and frankly just laughable.

who regulates the banking industry? bankers, selected by their employers, sit in public office as regulators and do whatever the banks want. after their stint "serving the public" they go back to chase or whoever and reap the rewards of a job well done.

the same goes for telecom, defense and any other industry. it used to be called a revolving door, but now the door has been replaced by a moving sidewalk. to pretend otherwise demonstrates a sarah palin-level of stupidity.
 
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If internet was unregulated, we would have 50mbps reliable download services for $19.99 or less per month. It's a pity that government given monopolies fucked everything up.

what color is the sky in your world? i worked in the telecom industry for nearly a dozen years. i don't think you have.

the telecommunications act of 1996 is the reason you have anything other than 56k dial-up or at best isdn from ma bell even today. it's also the reason why anyone not living in a city of 50,000+ has anything resembling internet service. if it wasn't legislated, i and my former colleagues wouldn't even pick up the phone without a fat profit attached to it. you think the bells give a shit about residential service? guess again.

the cable industry (among others) operates as a cartel. there is no competition to take away from profits. you will never see a town serviced by both comcast and time warner, for example. even between the ever-present baby bells and a cable company there is no threat to either - for all their noise, fios deployment was extremely limited and now even that has stopped since comcast and verizon decided to stop fighting and just make money.

there are occasionally additional services available - they're called overbuilders. 1 of them was backed by the deep pockets of paul allen. you know what we did to them? we eviscerated them at every opportunity, then we put them on life support. got to keep up the illusion of competition, ya know.

again, to draw a distinction between industry and government is laughable. the cable business already "regulates itself" with great financial success. i assure you, any loosening of a rule will come right out of your pocket with little or nothing to show for it. for example, a few years ago MA had a cap on the price of auto insurance, which was lifted "to promote competition and lower rates". the (obvious) result: no actual competition, same old companies, and sky-high prices. of course! if there's a rule preventing me from screwing you, and that rule is removed, i'm going to screw you.
 
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ROFL you 2 seem to think the government is not made up of industrial players and their cronies. drawing a distinction between industry and government is outdated at best, and frankly just laughable.

who regulates the banking industry? bankers, selected by their employers, sit in public office as regulators and do whatever the banks want. after their stint "serving the public" they go back to chase or whoever and reap the rewards of a job well done.

the same goes for telecom, defense and any other industry. it used to be called a revolving door, but now the door has been replaced by a moving sidewalk. to pretend otherwise demonstrates a sarah palin-level of stupidity.

I don't see how we're in disagreement. Unless you're one of the libruls that thinks the solution to a corrupt government is to give the government more power.
 

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In related news: Entire cast of Pirates of the Caribbean 5 Found Strangled.

How are they going to determine what is download is pirated though?

Because they said so, duh. What are you, some sort of communist? :)
 
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I don't see how we're in disagreement. Unless you're one of the libruls that thinks the solution to a corrupt government is to give the government more power.

what power does the gov't not have already? none. who decides how that power is wielded? people and organizations that already have tremendous wealth and influence, inevitably for their own gain - not mine and not yours.

p.s.
please don't call me a liberal. a) it's not accurate, b) you're using it in a derogatory sense towards me and c) "librul" tells me you have more fingers than brain cells, so spare me the glenn beck-stroking bullshit.
 
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