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ISPs and bandwidth capping

Arkitech

Diamond Member
I've read a few articles about ISPs possibly putting a limit on how much bandwidth a customer can use in a month, once the customer exceeds a certain amount then they will be charged for additional bandwidth usage. This is the biggest load of crap I've heard of in a long while and it reeks of a RIAA influenced decision. I don't how much pressure the RIAA can put on ISPs (if any) but if they start capping bandwidth people are gonna go nuts.
 
Cox HSI has started doing that. Our caps are:

Daily Download - 3 Gigs / Day
Daily Upload - 1 Gig / Day

Monthly Download - 30 Gigs / Month
Monthly Upload - 7.5 Gigs / Month

There is no way for me to tell how far or how close I am to these caps, and they threaten to terminate your service if you exceed their limits more than once.

My Covad DSL will be installed next week 😉
 
roadrunner hasn't given me crap for downloading to the extreme

I prolly downloaded at max dl speed of 258kb/s for like 5-6 hours none stop.
 
Originally posted by: LiQiCE
Cox HSI has started doing that. Our caps are:

Daily Download - 3 Gigs / Day
Daily Upload - 1 Gig / Day

Monthly Download - 30 Gigs / Month
Monthly Upload - 7.5 Gigs / Month

There is no way for me to tell how far or how close I am to these caps, and they threaten to terminate your service if you exceed their limits more than once.

My Covad DSL will be installed next week 😉

If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.
 
Originally posted by: Arkitech
I've read a few articles about ISPs possibly putting a limit on how much bandwidth a customer can use in a month, once the customer exceeds a certain amount then they will be charged for additional bandwidth usage. This is the biggest load of crap I've heard of in a long while and it reeks of a RIAA influenced decision. I don't how much pressure the RIAA can put on ISPs (if any) but if they start capping bandwidth people are gonna go nuts.
An ISP is selling you bandwidth. If they are not charging enough to make money off your usage, they will raise the price...

Go learn some economics...
 
My upstream cap is more the limiting factor than the 30Gig/month downstream cap. But I split the connection between my roomate and myself ... So when you factor that in, its pretty easy to exceed the caps. A daily cap of 3 Gigs / Day downstream is easy to break if you are downloading Redhat ISOs or something like that.

Originally posted by: ndee

If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.

 
Originally posted by: isekii
roadrunner hasn't given me crap for downloading to the extreme

I prolly downloaded at max dl speed of 258kb/s for like 5-6 hours none stop.
That isnt even that much downloading. I have RR going at my max of 243k/s for days at a time without a break. They have never called nor cared.


If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.
rolleye.gif
That is only a gb a day, that is not that much bandwidth. I know I do way more than that a month, I would guess I download maybe 100gb a month, give or take.
 
Originally posted by: LiQiCE
My upstream cap is more the limiting factor than the 30Gig/month downstream cap. But I split the connection between my roomate and myself ... So when you factor that in, its pretty easy to exceed the caps. A daily cap of 3 Gigs / Day downstream is easy to break if you are downloading Redhat ISOs or something like that.

Originally posted by: ndee

If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.
I know! The new Redhat 8.0 is 5 full cds:frown:
 
Bandwidth is $$$. If you want unlimited downloads buy a T1. Pay $5-700/mo. Then you can download or upload @ 1.5Mbit/s for 24x7 (=~550GB/mo per direction).

Your ISP buys a bunch of bandwidth and does calculations that only x% will be using it for y amount of time. Then they find out their calcs were wrong and there's not enough bandwidth. They then have 2 choices: Charge more or put in caps.

If you don't like it you can switch ISP's but eventually they'll all have T.O.S. w/ bandwidth caps or you'll actually have to pay for the full 'unlimited' amount.

 
Originally posted by: dman
Bandwidth is $$$. If you want unlimted downloads buy a T1. Pay $5-700/mo. Then you can download or upload @ 1.5Mbit/s for 24x7.

Your ISP buys a bunch of bandwidth and does calculations that only x% will be using it for y amount of time. Then they find out their calcs were wrong and there's not enough bandwidth. They then have 2 choices: Charge more or put in caps.

If you don't like it you can switch ISP's but eventually they'll all have T.O.S. w/ bandwidth caps or you'll actually have to pay for the full 'unlimted' amount.

ISPs keep claiming that they want to offer 'tiered' service, so I would imagine it would be fair to offer higher speeds / higher caps for a little bit more money. That way those of us who actually can exceed the caps, would pay the extra money and those who don't come close to it might save a few bucks here and there (by going to a lower tier). So far, I have seen nothing but empty promises from my cable company on this matter.
 
Originally posted by: Spac3d
Originally posted by: isekii
roadrunner hasn't given me crap for downloading to the extreme

I prolly downloaded at max dl speed of 258kb/s for like 5-6 hours none stop.
That isnt even that much downloading. I have RR going at my max of 243k/s for days at a time without a break. They have never called nor cared.


If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.
rolleye.gif
That is only a gb a day, that is not that much bandwidth. I know I do way more than that a month, I would guess I download maybe 100gb a month, give or take.

OK, what do you download? only pr0n?
 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Spac3d
Originally posted by: isekii
roadrunner hasn't given me crap for downloading to the extreme

I prolly downloaded at max dl speed of 258kb/s for like 5-6 hours none stop.
That isnt even that much downloading. I have RR going at my max of 243k/s for days at a time without a break. They have never called nor cared.


If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.
rolleye.gif
That is only a gb a day, that is not that much bandwidth. I know I do way more than that a month, I would guess I download maybe 100gb a month, give or take.

OK, what do you download? only pr0n?

I know I know !!!
😀

Actually a gig a day depending on surfing is not getting above the norm anymore. A single page of a thread at Somethingawful can run over 6 meg. Multiply that by two computers sharing the same line and it can add up rather quick.


 
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: LiQiCE
Cox HSI has started doing that. Our caps are:

Daily Download - 3 Gigs / Day
Daily Upload - 1 Gig / Day

Monthly Download - 30 Gigs / Month
Monthly Upload - 7.5 Gigs / Month

There is no way for me to tell how far or how close I am to these caps, and they threaten to terminate your service if you exceed their limits more than once.

My Covad DSL will be installed next week 😉

If you download more then 30Gigs per month, you got some issues.

Or you aren't taking full advantage of everything available on the Internet. 😉
 
i know RR dosent have a Cap yet. st least where i live anyway. and that 30 gigs down 7.5 up is horrid

in the last 1 day and 32 min. i have Dled 3.756 Gigs and Uplpaded 11.25 gigs

thats typicial for me. now X that by 30 and ummmmm thats like 115G down and 330 gigs Up

yea.........
 
yeah, those caps seem pretty generous. However, I figure upload cap would more of an issue for the companies than a d/l cap.
 
my isp does that, in fact all isp's in iceland do that, except we get free download when downloading from servers in iceland, so its not that much of a big loss.

I have had free download and there my "unused bandwith is bad bandwith" motto since the modem days kicked in and was constantly downloading, isp wasnt happy, dont think they offer this anymore 😉
 
For my ISP, it's 25GB of bandwidth a month for $37.40 w/ taxes Canadian. That's download and upload combined... which is fine for me.
 
My log shows me as passing 46 gb so far this month within the next few minutes.

If they charge me for bandwith I am screwed 😛
 
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