ISP blocking Bittorrent ports

envy me

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Using Rogers and I've noticed recently that port 6881-6889 are blocked sporadically. I have checked my router settings and they are all good. (I have even bypassed my router to check and it's a no go).

I have read elsewhere that I can avoid problems by using a different port. (I am using Azureus for my torrent downloading) But I have chosen port 6890 and my downloads are extremely slow.

Can anyone suggest a workaround to this problem? I am paying my ISP for full access to the internet (including all ports) and having them block certain ones is not something I like paying for.

Is anyone familiar with any Canadian ISP's (high speed only) that do not block these ports. I am getting very sick and tired with Rogers crap lately.

 

n0cmonkey

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Switch ISPs. You pay them for access to their network, it's up to them how they allow you to use it. bittorrent is a bitch.
 

SleepWalkerX

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I heard something like Rogers throttling the bandwidth for bit torrent. Not sure if its just by ports or by actual protocol. Have you port forwarded and checked with ShieldsUp? What is your connection and what is your upload rate set to?
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I heard something like Rogers throttling the bandwidth for bit torrent. Not sure if its just by ports or by actual protocol. Have you port forwarded and checked with ShieldsUp? What is your connection and what is your upload rate set to?

I have disabled my router and checked 3 different port scanning sites. All of which reported 6881-6889 disabled while 6890 and all others enabled, leading me to beleive that it is the ISP blocking (as no other firewall is installed) My connection is 1.5 MBPs or 3 I beleive not sure, but usually my MAX upload before internet slows to a crawl is around 60 kb/s so I set the max upload in Azureus to 25, with unlimited down.

I cannot understand their reason for doing this as they already have a maximum download limit in place. Just another way to further restrict internet access. I think I might give them a call later. But I would really like to know of others that have overcome this same problem.

 

kamper

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I heard something like Rogers throttling the bandwidth for bit torrent.
I can confirm that. I've noticed a very sluggish connection for up to a week after significant (completely legal) bittorrenting. I couldn't say how consistently because I don't do all that much.
I have disabled my router and checked 3 different port scanning sites. All of which reported 6881-6889 disabled while 6890 and all others enabled, leading me to beleive that it is the ISP blocking (as no other firewall is installed) My connection is 1.5 MBPs or 3 I beleive not sure, but usually my MAX upload before internet slows to a crawl is around 60 kb/s so I set the max upload in Azureus to 25, with unlimited down.

I cannot understand their reason for doing this as they already have a maximum download limit in place. Just another way to further restrict internet access. I think I might give them a call later. But I would really like to know of others that have overcome this same problem.
Just to cover everything, you are certain that you don't just have slow torrents right? (what an oxy-moron :p). If you aren't getting any better results with supposedly open ports then...
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: SleepWalkerX
I heard something like Rogers throttling the bandwidth for bit torrent.
I can confirm that. I've noticed a very sluggish connection for up to a week after significant (completely legal) bittorrenting. I couldn't say how consistently because I don't do all that much.
I have disabled my router and checked 3 different port scanning sites. All of which reported 6881-6889 disabled while 6890 and all others enabled, leading me to beleive that it is the ISP blocking (as no other firewall is installed) My connection is 1.5 MBPs or 3 I beleive not sure, but usually my MAX upload before internet slows to a crawl is around 60 kb/s so I set the max upload in Azureus to 25, with unlimited down.

I cannot understand their reason for doing this as they already have a maximum download limit in place. Just another way to further restrict internet access. I think I might give them a call later. But I would really like to know of others that have overcome this same problem.
Just to cover everything, you are certain that you don't just have slow torrents right? (what an oxy-moron :p). If you aren't getting any better results with supposedly open ports then...


Positive.... I know this because the files I was downloading all had large ammount of seeders available yet I was only running at speeds of around 1-3k/s which is worse than dial up.

 

envy me

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Switched to port 1720 and my speeds are back!! Awesome.. I read on other site (dslreports) people with the same problem and by using this particular port past speeds were achieved. I just hope Rogers doesn't screw around with this anymore.

 

JBT

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Yeah I was going to say check dslr as I thought I just saw a news article on there saying Rogers was blocking BT and that users could just change their ports and all was ok.
 

n7

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Rogers is throttling BT hard.

You're using their VOIP port, which is the only one they don't monitor, that's why you're okay.

I hate teh Canadian cable companies, Rogers, & Shaw...both are f*cking us over :|
 

Tu13erhead

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uTorrent has the option to pick a random port every time it starts up.

Works great at my university :)
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
uTorrent has the option to pick a random port every time it starts up.

Works great at my university :)
That'd be far more useful at home if it could also log into your router, close the previous port and open up the new one ;)
 

Nothinman

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That'd be far more useful at home if it could also log into your router, close the previous port and open up the new one

If it and your router support UPnP it should be able to do that.
 

Nothinman

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I'm not advocating the use of UPnP at all, I'm just saying it's there. The ability for anyone on your network to reconfigure your router seems like a really bad idea to me.
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
I'm not advocating the use of UPnP at all, I'm just saying it's there. The ability for anyone on your network to reconfigure your router seems like a really bad idea to me.
Sounds logical. But could you elaborate anyways? I actually have no idea what UPnP is :confused:
 

LiquidImpulse

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Originally posted by: envy me

Using Rogers and I've noticed recently that port 6881-6889 are blocked sporadically. I have checked my router settings and they are all good. (I have even bypassed my router to check and it's a no go).

I have read elsewhere that I can avoid problems by using a different port. (I am using Azureus for my torrent downloading) But I have chosen port 6890 and my downloads are extremely slow.

Can anyone suggest a workaround to this problem? I am paying my ISP for full access to the internet (including all ports) and having them block certain ones is not something I like paying for.

Is anyone familiar with any Canadian ISP's (high speed only) that do not block these ports. I am getting very sick and tired with Rogers crap lately.


i feel for you, their service is horrible, their price is horrible, and their speed is HORRIBLE. I've got high speed lite and im only getting <200 kilobytes.WTF

I've been wanting to switch to Bell for some time. I've heard good things about them, as well as internet speed boost.
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
http://www.knoxscape.com/Upnp/NAT.htm

That page only covers port forwarding, but I'm sure there's more available if you want to look around the MSDN docs.
Microsoft has a broad strategy of having devices when they are brought into a LAN, they can be queried as to their functionality and services.
<-- hops right over to router config to confirm UPnP is disabled

That's all I wanted to know, thanks :)
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
uTorrent has the option to pick a random port every time it starts up.

Works great at my university :)

how does that work iwth port forwarding and router settings though?