Isn't it easy to cheat on online poker?

Frost Byte

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1. Subscribe to multiple ISPs with different unique IP addresses.
2. All get into same table.
3. Profit!

There's virtually no way to combat this?
 

Tu13erhead

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Frost Byte
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Where would the profit come from?

Imagine a game of 8 people where three of them are You.
Or a table of four....

what if the guy owns all 3 of "you"?

Yep, lose 3x the money.

I was thinking you were trying to fill a table with "yous". Therefore no gain.
 

Frost Byte

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Frost Byte
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Where would the profit come from?

Imagine a game of 8 people where three of them are You.
Or a table of four....

what if the guy owns all 3 of "you"?

Let's talk probabilities. If you know what you're doing and manage three players well, you're bound to make $$. So many possibilities.... three of 'you' bet aggressively against each other to weed other players out. Again, so many possibilities. You have 3 hands to play with in every game.
 

alien42

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the op is correct and it is possible and not too difficult to do.

friends can also play together and chat via IM
 

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: Frost Byte
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Where would the profit come from?

Imagine a game of 8 people where three of them are You.
Or a table of four....

what if the guy owns all 3 of "you"?

It certainly helps your odds...
 

x04d DaY

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Originally posted by: alien42
the op is correct and it is possible and not too difficult to do.

Except when you lose.
I mean, if you're a great poker player, then go for it.
 

RbSX

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My room mate tried it last year, once they notice that two accounts seem to be playing with eachother ALOT, they'll ban the two from playing together. Summarily the rake will take away any profit made.
 

x04d DaY

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
My room mate tried it last year, once they notice that two accounts seem to be playing with eachother ALOT, they'll ban the two from playing together. Summarily the rake will take away any profit made.

I'm pretty sure you can stop them from taking your money.
Or just play together a dozen times, then sign up all over again.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: x04d DaY
Originally posted by: alien42
the op is correct and it is possible and not too difficult to do.

Except when you lose.
I mean, if you're a great poker player, then go for it.


If you're a great player you don't need to cheat. Great players play real poker against real people in person and make tons of money.
 

x04d DaY

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: x04d DaY
Originally posted by: alien42
the op is correct and it is possible and not too difficult to do.

Except when you lose.
I mean, if you're a great poker player, then go for it.


If you're a great player you don't need to cheat. Great players play real poker against real people in person and make tons of money.

Which is more or less my point.
If you're sub-par, you run the risk of losing much money. If you're very good, you shouldn't need to cheat.
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: x04d DaY
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: x04d DaY
Originally posted by: alien42
the op is correct and it is possible and not too difficult to do.

Except when you lose.
I mean, if you're a great poker player, then go for it.


If you're a great player you don't need to cheat. Great players play real poker against real people in person and make tons of money.

Which is more or less my point.
If you're sub-par, you run the risk of losing much money. If you're very good, you shouldn't need to cheat.

but if u cheat u will gain more advantage..

and people use IM to cheat...
 

Frost Byte

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Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
that is really lame if you are cheating people out of money...OP unplug your computer

are you stupid? where did I ever implied that I wanted to cheat?
 

gsaldivar

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Originally posted by: Frost Byte
Originally posted by: Son of a N00b
that is really lame if you are cheating people out of money...OP unplug your computer

are you stupid? where did I ever implied that I wanted to cheat?

Where does your "profit" come from... out of one pocket and into the other? :roll:
 

Josh

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A good poker player will destroy multiple people working together, in some ways it can hurt your chances extremely.
 

nccr

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I see many problems with this idea.
1. You will not be able to have all the accounts play together in the same games for long (many poker sites run anti-collusion software and having the same group of 5 people ALWAYS play together is very suspicious)
2. You can't keep raising with all personas in order to make the other player fold (again, very suspicious)
3. Although you may be able to take some money from the other party in the game, you are losing a ton of it to rake

 

mchammer187

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you are assuming that you are going to be able to bluff out ever pot

even if you are able to do it with most pots

the ones where you try it against someone with a premium hand or even the nuts you are going to get killed

imagine yourself controlling 3 people all raising each other to bluff the other person has a monster and he is going to pocket 2-3x more money on hands because of this


the only way it is a benefit is if you are on a draw and other hands you have have killed your outs

it you need a king to make a straight but two other hands you have been dealt had kings in them but remember you are paying 3x the blinds 3x the rake for 3 people

so yes it does provide an advantage however it is not as big as you would think and you can get absolutely killed against one or two good players



for tournament play I can see this as possibly being advantageous though but in a ten person tournament only 3 people get payed so you must get a second AND third place finish or a first every time to end up ahead

 

DBL

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Well, if you listen to the poker sites, they all have anti-collusion mechanisms in place to stop this sort of thing. Hand histories, which can always be looked at by the poker sites can reveal collusion. It would take a lot of time and effort to make collusion profitable.

I've seen suspicious things at Sit-n-go's, where one player at the beginning calls off all his chips with an unbelievably atrocious hand and doubles up another player. However, when you realize that as far as SnG tournaments, the colluders must pay 2 buy-ins, it really doesn't seem like too much of an advantage to me.
 

PingSpike

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Wasn't there a thread about some kid who lived off of cheating at online poker like this. I remember a pic of some guy in his underwear sitting at a desk with a bunch of monitors.