Islam's 20-year plan for U.S.

postmortemIA

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1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America ? black gold. America?s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

* Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

* Use no birth control whatsoever ? every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

* Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years ? since one can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

* Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.

More at whole article @Netscape.com. Sound pretty reasonable to me, based on what I already know.
 

blackllotus

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Wow, that looks like total crap. Whoever made those points up did a poor job of it. Honestly, what kind of plan is "Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena."

Ignoring the questionable accuracy of the points, those points directly contradict what terrorists like Osama Bin Ladin want. Osama's primary goal is not the destruction or islamization of America, but rather a total reform of Islam within the Middle East. The radical Salafis, such as Osama, want to turn the Islamic world into one governmed by the shari'a and in which the umma is primary political community. An often overlooked fact is that these people hate "fake" muslims (those that don't conform to their radical pov) more than they hate America. They use America as a target to gain support. Their attempts at radicalizing/fundamentalizing the Islamic world to their belief system have largely failed. They have incited revolutions, but most of them get squashed. We are viewed as oppressors even by moderate muslims, so they use this hatred as leverage to get support for their own causes (hence Osama's call for war with America in his fatwa). Furthermore, America is viewed as interfering with their greater plans for the islamic world. Do they hate us? Sure. But their is no way in hell they are going to put that much effort into islamicizing us.

Revealing link
 

SViscusi

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It's not an article from Netscape, it's from those nuts at World Net Daily. And if this list sounds 'reasonable' to you, seek help.
 

Termagant

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The Rev. Jesse Jackson is an Imam??? I suppose when you're a white supremacist like much of the World Net readers you lump all non-whites together as your enemies.
 

sandorski

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The problem those Blinded by Hate have is, that their blindness also makes them stupid.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: Termagant
The Rev. Jesse Jackson is an Imam??? I suppose when you're a white supremacist like much of the World Net readers you lump all non-whites together as your enemies.

Isn't he a Baptist?
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: postmortemIA
1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America ? black gold. America?s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

* Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

* Use no birth control whatsoever ? every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

* Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years ? since one can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

* Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.

More at whole article @Netscape.com. Sound pretty reasonable to me, based on what I already know.

Did they discuss this plan at the last big meeting or something?

Seriously, you're kidding here...right?
 

Jaskalas

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If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.
 

postmortemIA

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Some people just don't see until it knocks on their door. Islam's no#1 goal is expansion, everything else is secondary.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.

Interesting choice of a word. Europe might become predominantly Muslim, maybe, but it'll still be around.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Some people just don't see until it knocks on their door. Islam's no#1 goal is expansion, everything else is secondary.

Islam does not have goals, Islam is a religion, followed by many people in many different ways. Some of them are certainly radicals, even violent ones, but I see no reason to believe that characterizes the entire religion, or that the radical element is on the rise. In fact, there is substantial evidence to suggest that this current bout of radical fanatics, far from being the start of WWIII, is actually their death rattle.

Hell, just look at history...alarmists like you were the norm back in the Red Scare days as well, saying virtually the same things. But looking back they look like a bunch of idiots...I suspect future historians will treat you people much the same way.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.

Predicting the future is pretty hard, doubly so when you base it on fear instead of brainpower and facts.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.

Interesting choice of a word. Europe might become predominantly Muslim, maybe, but it'll still be around.

Indeed, the hallow shells of the infrastructure will still be standing. They may retain their European names. Yet honestly, would we still idolize them after they switch from secular progressive back into religious oppression?
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.

Predicting the future is pretty hard, doubly so when you base it on fear instead of brainpower and facts.

The fact is the maternity wards are Europe?s future, and they are ever increasingly Muslim. Demographics are the basis of everything else, and one hell of a solid fact.
 

postmortemIA

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Some people just don't see until it knocks on their door. Islam's no#1 goal is expansion, everything else is secondary.

Islam does not have goals, Islam is a religion, followed by many people in many different ways. Some of them are certainly radicals, even violent ones, but I see no reason to believe that characterizes the entire religion, or that the radical element is on the rise. In fact, there is substantial evidence to suggest that this current bout of radical fanatics, far from being the start of WWIII, is actually their death rattle.

Hell, just look at history...alarmists like you were the norm back in the Red Scare days as well, saying virtually the same things. But looking back they look like a bunch of idiots...I suspect future historians will treat you people much the same way.

Yes history repeats itself. And some events are not favorable to your theory. Good example is Ottoman's Empire attempts to conquer parts of Europe (or perhaps bigger part of it). another example is that world didn't take Hitler seriously, they tried to compromise and hope for reason, until it was too late.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.

Interesting choice of a word. Europe might become predominantly Muslim, maybe, but it'll still be around.

Indeed, the hallow shells of the infrastructure will still be standing. They may retain their European names. Yet honestly, would we still idolize them after they switch from secular progressive back into religious oppression?



If that happens, I doubt it. However, I doubt that will happen.
 

magomago

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DAMMIT I hate it when information from out basement meetings every month get out! Its so frustrating dealing with leaks - At the next one (meet up in SF - we'll be in the basement of Boca de Pepo...its a LOT larger than you think!) we'll probably call for a Jihad on anyone who MIGHT be leaking information. I swear, how can we part of a secret conspiracy if we can't have our secrecy!

Jaskalas - you see only what you want to see

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4385768.stm

Oh yeah watch out - Muslims are like OMG 5% in a like 4-5 countries!~ Then again, 5% of the population is all "we" need ! I swear - fifty years from now when Muslims are more common here you will be the old man who still harbors irrational hatred towards others. Then again - it comess from world net daily :D

I swear what you guys believe is ridiculous..but then again I'm gearing myself on entering the medical field as well, so they just might be onto something ;)
 

Martin

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It IS perfectly reasonable - I know this for a fact. I recognized it last week, when I went to an arabic place and got 2 incredibly delicious shawarmas for $5.99 (one chicken, one sujuk). That's right - two shawarmas for $6!!! First I thought I'd get what I paid for, but no.. the chicken was well done, the sujuk was tangy yet not greasy! The lettuce was crisp, the tomatoes ripe, the humus was smooth and garlic sauce was divine! There was a party in my mouth and everyone was invited!!!

Afterwards, while smoking a strawberry flavoured sheesha (with a hint of lemon), I spent a lot of time thinking about these shawarmas, but could not explain getting such a great deal. Then it came to me - this resturant was a part of a vast global islamic conspiracy aimed at converting honkeys like me to their way of life. No wonder the shawarmas were so cheap and so good - the place was sponsored by Saddam Bin Laden himself - and they could afford to take a huge loss if only it meant converting crackers. Not only that, but it was a part of the network of resturants that aims to connect islamists across the country - its obvious, there muslims there eating shawarmas too!!!

I can't tell you what a relief it is to finally see the Truth. I certainly won't be visiting that place again, from now on I'll stick to good old healthy White food only - mickey D's here I come!
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: postmortemIA
Some people just don't see until it knocks on their door. Islam's no#1 goal is expansion, everything else is secondary.

Islam does not have goals, Islam is a religion, followed by many people in many different ways. Some of them are certainly radicals, even violent ones, but I see no reason to believe that characterizes the entire religion, or that the radical element is on the rise. In fact, there is substantial evidence to suggest that this current bout of radical fanatics, far from being the start of WWIII, is actually their death rattle.

Hell, just look at history...alarmists like you were the norm back in the Red Scare days as well, saying virtually the same things. But looking back they look like a bunch of idiots...I suspect future historians will treat you people much the same way.

Yes history repeats itself. And some events are not favorable to your theory. Good example is Ottoman's Empire attempts to conquer parts of Europe (or perhaps bigger part of it). another example is that world didn't take Hitler seriously, they tried to compromise and hope for reason, until it was too late.

Are you very stoned? Last I remember, Hitler's "grand vision" didn't work out so well for him OR Germany. Yeah, he did a fair amount of damage, but it was hardly "too late", he got his ass handily kicked quite quickly. If there IS a similar event with radical Islam (which I very much doubt), I don't expect it will have much more of a shelf life.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Martin

It IS perfectly reasonable - I know this for a fact. I recognized it last week, when I went to an arabic place and got 2 incredibly delicious shawarmas for $5.99 (one chicken, one sujuk). That's right - two shawarmas for $6!!! First I thought I'd get what I paid for, but no.. the chicken was well done, the sujuk was tangy yet not greasy! The lettuce was crisp, the tomatoes ripe, the humus was smooth and garlic sauce was divine! There was a party in my mouth and everyone was invited!!!

Afterwards, while smoking a strawberry flavoured sheesha (with a hint of lemon), I spent a lot of time thinking about these shawarmas, but could not explain getting such a great deal. Then it came to me - this resturant was a part of a vast global islamic conspiracy aimed at converting honkeys like me to their way of life. No wonder the shawarmas were so cheap and so good - the place was sponsored by Saddam Bin Laden himself - and they could afford to take a huge loss if only it meant converting crackers. Not only that, but it was a part of the network of resturants that aims to connect islamists across the country - its obvious, there muslims there eating shawarmas too!!!

I can't tell you what a relief it is to finally see the Truth. I certainly won't be visiting that place again, from now on I'll stick to good old healthy White food only - mickey D's here I come!

Shawarmas? Never heard of them, might risk getting brainwashed just to try them.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Rainsford
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If you want to watch Islam assimilate an entire continent, just watch Europe fall this century. No need for silly talking points, you can witness the real thing in action.

Predicting the future is pretty hard, doubly so when you base it on fear instead of brainpower and facts.

The fact is the maternity wards are Europe?s future, and they are ever increasingly Muslim. Demographics are the basis of everything else, and one hell of a solid fact.

Yeah? Well guess what your obviously genius analysis is missing? The fact that Muslims, just like every other religious or social group on the entire planet, no exceptions, are not some homogeneous gathering of totally like minded people. It makes NO SENSE to discuss demographics as a prediction of future social trends, mostly because the behavior of a demographic is not consistent among the members of that group, much less between generations. Another far more likely analysis is that the growing number of Muslims in progressive societies will become more progressive themselves...far from being some sort of catastrophe for the world, as you seem to imagine, growing Muslim presence in the Western world could be the best possible thing for both "sides" and the world as a whole in the long run.

Of course I'm taking the position that people are defined far more as individuals than by race, religion or any other generalized traits. This fits with my experience in the real world, and I see very little evidence to disprove that theory. You, on the other hand, seem to be approaching this as some sort of overly simplified race...whether the behavior and values of everyone is fixed and pre-determined by their social group, and the only way for a good outcome is for the "good" social group to win the race. In other words, more Christians good, more Muslims bad. No offense, but that's just stupid...life isn't quite that simple.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Martin

It IS perfectly reasonable - I know this for a fact. I recognized it last week, when I went to an arabic place and got 2 incredibly delicious shawarmas for $5.99 (one chicken, one sujuk). That's right - two shawarmas for $6!!! First I thought I'd get what I paid for, but no.. the chicken was well done, the sujuk was tangy yet not greasy! The lettuce was crisp, the tomatoes ripe, the humus was smooth and garlic sauce was divine! There was a party in my mouth and everyone was invited!!!

Afterwards, while smoking a strawberry flavoured sheesha (with a hint of lemon), I spent a lot of time thinking about these shawarmas, but could not explain getting such a great deal. Then it came to me - this resturant was a part of a vast global islamic conspiracy aimed at converting honkeys like me to their way of life. No wonder the shawarmas were so cheap and so good - the place was sponsored by Saddam Bin Laden himself - and they could afford to take a huge loss if only it meant converting crackers. Not only that, but it was a part of the network of resturants that aims to connect islamists across the country - its obvious, there muslims there eating shawarmas too!!!

I can't tell you what a relief it is to finally see the Truth. I certainly won't be visiting that place again, from now on I'll stick to good old healthy White food only - mickey D's here I come!

Shawarmas? Never heard of them, might risk getting brainwashed just to try them.

Ah, they are so good. I first tried them for a small shop in Naples, Italy, operated by one of those evil Muslims apparently taking over Europe. I don't know, I didn't see it...but I doubt I would have really appreciated the Red Scare back in the day either. It takes a special kind of mind to look at the people getting their panties in a bunch over stuff like that and not ask what they are smoking.