isekii's Question of the day

[isekii]

Hi, I have a question for all of you.

1. A CD-R holds 80min of music. Is it possible to somehow lower the quality ( i.e MDLP ) and get longer playback time ?

Thank You.

 

[T3C]

i think so, dont know how to do it though

 

[conjur]

just get an MP3 player

 

[Anubis]

most likely possiable

or buy something that plays mp3s

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: conjur
just get an MP3 player

well I really wanna listen to it in my car. I guess I can go the Mp3 player route but I prefer not to if I don't have to.

 

[isekii]

damn dp

 

[Encryptic]

I don't see how that would be possible, unless you actually chopped each song down to make them fit.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Encryptic
I don't see how that would be possible, unless you actually chopped each song down to make them fit.

Well in a Minidisc player.. you can decrease the quality and increase the time length aka "MDLP"
why isn't that possible in a CD player ?

The stuff I want to put on CD is about 23hrs long.

 

[Anubis]

what is 23 hours long that you wanna put on a cd?

at that length just get DVD audio cant it store an assload more

 

[Kenny]

Originally posted by: isekii

The stuff I want to put on CD is about 23hrs long.

I don't think even Moses could pull that off.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Fundamentals of how the Audio "Book" standards function prevent this.

MP3 player.

- M4H

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Anubis
what is 23 hours long that you wanna put on a cd?

at that length just get DVD audio cant it store an assload more

It's an audio book. It can be upto 6 cd's as I have a indash changer.

 

[Drakkon]

23 hrs?!?!
No 80 min, 99 min cd will ever fit that....the only way i can think of is converting it to like 64 bit mp3 or soemthing like telephone quality wma....it would sound like pure crap though and not even be worth listening to. If anythign i think you would have to split it up and make a couple of cd's with a couple semi decent quality mp3's. If you can listen to something 23hrs straight though I'd be amazed

 

[Anubis]

what book?
fellowship is about 21 hours long off CD and thats long

have it in mp3s

 

[TheNinja]

I would say that no it is not possible to do this and still have a standard CD player read it properly as audio.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Drakkon
23 hrs?!?!
No 80 min, 99 min cd will ever fit that....the only way i can think of is converting it to like 64 bit mp3 or soemthing like telephone quality wma....it would sound like pure crap though and not even be worth listening to. If anythign i think you would have to split it up and make a couple of cd's with a couple semi decent quality mp3's. If you can listen to something 23hrs straight though I'd be amazed

haha give me like a quadrouple double shot espresso and i think it'll be possible

 

[Dragon365]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Encryptic
I don't see how that would be possible, unless you actually chopped each song down to make them fit.

Well in a Minidisc player.. you can decrease the quality and increase the time length aka "MDLP"
why isn't that possible in a CD player ?

The stuff I want to put on CD is about 23hrs long.

I think you need to go to a school for the technically challenged.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Dragon365

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Encryptic
I don't see how that would be possible, unless you actually chopped each song down to make them fit.

Well in a Minidisc player.. you can decrease the quality and increase the time length aka "MDLP"
why isn't that possible in a CD player ?

The stuff I want to put on CD is about 23hrs long.

I think you need to go to a school for the technically challenged.

I think you should learn to STFU It's a legitimate question. MDLP allows you to extend the time it can record and playback. So why would it not be possible for a CD ?
If you can't answer it then again STFU~

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

When you make a music CD, the audio is spaced out in a particular pattern on the disc itself. This is how a CD player recognizes it as "audio." A 80 minute CD will only ever hold 80 minutes of music, regardless of what the bitrate the music is encoded in.

However, a MP3 player actually stores the MP3s in a file format similar to a harddrive. The smaller the bitrate, the less space it takes on the storage medium, and the more music you can fit (whereas typical audio format will always take up the same space based on song length). If you need to fit those hours of music onto a single dics, then you'll need to encode it to MP3 at some really low bitrate and then play the disc on a headunit that supports MP3 playback.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
When you make a music CD, the audio is spaced out in a particular pattern on the disc itself. This is how a CD player recognizes it as "audio." A 80 minute CD will only ever hold 80 minutes of music, regardless of what the bitrate the music is encoded in.

However, a MP3 player actually stores the MP3s in a file format similar to a harddrive. The smaller the bitrate, the less space it takes on the storage medium, and the more music you can fit (whereas typical audio format will always take up the same space based on song length). If you need to fit those hours of music onto a single dics, then you'll need to encode it to MP3 at some really low bitrate and then play the disc on a headunit that supports MP3 playback.

Ahh.. thank you for your informative response, not like the one that posted a few before you.
How is it possible with Mini Discs ? special programming ? I mean that uses lower bitrates.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Dragon365

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Encryptic
I don't see how that would be possible, unless you actually chopped each song down to make them fit.

Well in a Minidisc player.. you can decrease the quality and increase the time length aka "MDLP"
why isn't that possible in a CD player ?

The stuff I want to put on CD is about 23hrs long.

I think you need to go to a school for the technically challenged.

I think you should learn to STFU It's a legitimate question. MDLP allows you to extend the time it can record and playback. So why would it not be possible for a CD ?
If you can't answer it then again STFU~

Who pissed in your coffee?

I think it would be obvious that if it was possible, it would have been done already. Also, MiniDisc != CD.

- M4H

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: KnightBreed
When you make a music CD, the audio is spaced out in a particular pattern on the disc itself. This is how a CD player recognizes it as "audio." A 80 minute CD will only ever hold 80 minutes of music, regardless of what the bitrate the music is encoded in.

However, a MP3 player actually stores the MP3s in a file format similar to a harddrive. The smaller the bitrate, the less space it takes on the storage medium, and the more music you can fit (whereas typical audio format will always take up the same space based on song length). If you need to fit those hours of music onto a single dics, then you'll need to encode it to MP3 at some really low bitrate and then play the disc on a headunit that supports MP3 playback.

Ahh.. thank you for your informative response, not like the one that posted a few before you.
How is it possible with Mini Discs ? special programming ? I mean that uses lower bitrates.

It's mostly the horrid encoding they use. Something around a 64kbps MP3 equivalent.

- M4H

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: conjur
just get an MP3 player

well I really wanna listen to it in my car. I guess I can go the Mp3 player route but I prefer not to if I don't have to.

Well, calculate what bitrate a 23hr MP3 would need to be encoded at in order to fit on a 700MB CD and pop for the in-dash MP3 player.   SOOO glad I have one in my car. I typically get 6-7hrs on each CD (I don't really fill them up...just make 'mood' CDs like top-down driving, night-time driving, blues, rainy-day CD, etc.) and most of my MP3s are 128/160 or are VBR up to 320.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Dragon365

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Encryptic
I don't see how that would be possible, unless you actually chopped each song down to make them fit.

Well in a Minidisc player.. you can decrease the quality and increase the time length aka "MDLP"
why isn't that possible in a CD player ?

The stuff I want to put on CD is about 23hrs long.

I think you need to go to a school for the technically challenged.

I think you should learn to STFU It's a legitimate question. MDLP allows you to extend the time it can record and playback. So why would it not be possible for a CD ?
If you can't answer it then again STFU~

Who pissed in your coffee?

I think it would be obvious that if it was possible, it would have been done already. Also, MiniDisc != CD.

- M4H

^_^ I don't drink coffee, plus I asked a question, I didn't ask for him to make asshat comments.
I'm sure if it was possible that someone would have already done it.. but I also wanted to know why it isn't possible.
Aren't Mini Discs like mini rewriteable cd's ?

I mean you can purchase MD's that store data for PC which holds significant amount less data.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: isekii
I'm sure if it was possible that someone would have already done it.. but I also wanted to know why it isn't possible.
Aren't Mini Discs like mini rewriteable cd's ?

I mean you can purchase MD's that store data for PC which holds significant amount less data.

A Minidisc and a 3" CDRW are pretty much identical in common terms. A 3" CD will hold about 21 minutes of Redbook audio. A Minidisc, on the other hand, will hold the 74 minutes thanks to a 292kbps (IIRC) datastream for the audio. This is not comparable to an MP3 or Vorbis 292kbps file, as the codecs are different. An MP3 disc of the same capacity (185MB) will hold about two hours of music at 192kbps CBR.

- M4H