Is witchcraft real?

Malak

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Do people practice it? Yes.
Do they have supernatural powers? No.

Yeah I think the question should be reworded. Does witch craft exist? Sure. Is it anything beyond a fad/obsession? Nah.
 

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Lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt! :p
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Sundog
If enough people believe it is real, then it is real. Jean Paul Sartre

YES!
although, im willing to go with the "if anyone believes" it is real.

more tangibly, though..."witchcraft" is real.
the sort of popular magic powers type dealy...well, it could be. but i doubt it.

 

Wallydraigle

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A thousand years ago simple chemistry was witchcraft. Today we use symbols and devices made of glass and metal to divine the answers to our queries and to scry scenes from all over the universe. Our computers and internet would have been witchcraft just a few decades ago. Is a computer program that much different than a spell, really?

Magic is just science that we don't understand... yet.

But yeah, the teenagers who dress in black robes and sacrifice cats to the devil are just freaks.
 

illusion88

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Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
A thousand years ago simple chemistry was witchcraft. Today we use symbols and devices made of glass and metal to divine the answers to our queries and to scry scenes from all over the universe. Our computers and internet would have been witchcraft just a few decades ago. Is a computer program that much different than a spell, really?

Magic is just science that we don't understand... yet.

But yeah, the teenagers who dress in black robes and sacrifice cats to the devil are just freaks.

I like that. But you know nothing the wicca religion or witchcraft. The Devil has nothing to do with either.
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: illusion88
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
A thousand years ago simple chemistry was witchcraft. Today we use symbols and devices made of glass and metal to divine the answers to our queries and to scry scenes from all over the universe. Our computers and internet would have been witchcraft just a few decades ago. Is a computer program that much different than a spell, really?

Magic is just science that we don't understand... yet.

But yeah, the teenagers who dress in black robes and sacrifice cats to the devil are just freaks.

I like that. But you know nothing the wicca religion or witchcraft. The Devil has nothing to do with either.


I know little bit about Wicca, but I wasn't talking about them. I was talking about teenaged freaks in black robes who sacrifice cats to the devil.
 

Wallydraigle

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As I understand it, based on my limited knowledge, true Wiccans aren't very concerned with working magic, or "witchcraft" at all. For them it's more like if you have the wisdom to use it then you have the wisdom not to use it. Also their "spells" are more like prayers, in that they work towards the unfolding of some kind of plan. They try to see to it that something is carried out, but not necessarily through them. For instance say someone was sick, they would perform a "spell" (I think a better way to describe it is a ritual prayer) for the person to get better, not a spell for them to have the power to heal the person. They wouldn't try to make fire shoot out of their fingers or something ridiculous like that, because it doesn't jive with their values, but they would try to use their magic as they see it to bring balance and harmony to their sphere of influence. Is that more or less right?

For that particular brand of "witchcraft" (which is really a misnomer for this kind of thing I think) you might as well ask if prayer is real.
 

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Wicca (what most people call witchcraft) is like most other religions in that it's not the practice itself that is real, rather it's the practitioner. Can they perform magic? I don't believe so, personally. Can a Wiccan change the way he or she behaves in the world to try to make it a better place? Of course. Everyone can. That's the difference between a Wiccan and some punk-a$$ kid who wants to "hex0r his enemies".

The same thing exists in every major religion I can think of. Christians have a huge number of people who go to church once a week because they believe by doing only this, they'll go to some perfect heaven when they die. These same people are the ones who think gays (or anyone else who isn't exactly like them) are immoral/evil, walk by the guy who asks for some change on the street corner, and screams at me that I'm going to hell because I don't share their beliefs.

It's not what you believe in, how often you go to church, or how much money you donate to further your spiritual path. It's how a person handles him/herself. For every one good, genuinely faithful (regardless of chosen deity) person, there are thousands of those who are religious either because they've been taught to, they're afraid to go against social norms, or just plain crazy (so-called Satanists who don't have a clue what LaVey's idea of the beliefs were).
 

Wallydraigle

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I didn't mean to kill the thread, because I find this subject pretty interesting. Are there any people here who practice "witchcraft"? Are you a Wiccan, or something else? What kinds of spells do you cast?

Do you feel that your beliefs in magic are more or less compatible with what we know about physics and stuff?

Cha0s, sorry for throwing so much stuff out there, but I'm trying to revive this thread.
 

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Witchcraft is like any other reliigion/belief. Itis real enough to those who actively practice it, to the point of where it really does affect the outcome in their lives.
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Witchcraft is like any other reliigion/belief. Itis real enough to those who actively practice it, to the point of where it really does affect the outcome in their lives.


Which is something to think about in itself, in that something that might very well be imaginary has more power and influence than many things that are real.

Would you rather be strong but imaginary, or real but insignificant? :D