Is wireless fast enough for blu-Ray?

masteryoda34

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From my experience streaming HD video to a Windows Media Center extender:

Wireless N can stream HD content. However, expect random interruptions due to interference. Also the distance must be reasonable. If you have the option to easily do wired ethernet and you expect to stream a lot, then I would run a wire.
 

glen

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Thanks.
I have a Linksys E1000, so that is an N router I believe.
It is about 15 feet from the Blu-ray player.
Does HD imply a certain data rate?
Is it the same as a Blu-Ray disc?
Do I just divide the disc data by the movie length, and that is the rate I need?
If so, then how fast is the N formate at 15 feet?
 
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blackangst1

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I stream bluray and dts from my upstairs PC to my theater downstairs with no hiccups.

caveat: I am using 5ghz N for this connection though. Before, using 2.4ghz N, it mostly worked. Remember with N if youve got any channel interference it'll drop to G. N is very finicky.
 

glen

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I stream bluray and dts from my upstairs PC to my theater downstairs with no hiccups.

caveat: I am using 5ghz N for this connection though. Before, using 2.4ghz N, it mostly worked. Remember with N if youve got any channel interference it'll drop to G. N is very finicky.
Ok, I looked at my router, and I cannot see where it tells me if it is 2.4 or 5ghz.
 

velillen

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Thanks.
I have a Linksys E1000, so that is an N router I believe.
It is about 15 feet from the Blu-ray player.

If its that close with a clear LoS you should be able to. its all about location of the router vs equipment in my experience. Add a wall or two and it can become a crapshoot

Does HD imply a certain data rate?

HD is so widely used it hardly means squat. Cable tv uses HD and its only 720p. Other people hear HD and think 1080p. So no i wouldnt say HD implies any specific bitrate.

Is it the same as a Blu-Ray disc?

Generally nope. HD per cable is compressed. Same with well pretty much any "HD" streaming is going to be compressed and not bit for bit.

[quote[ Do I just divide the disc data by the movie length, and that is the rate I need? [/quote]

Whole disc data...no cause you have special features in there too so actual movie size is a bit smaller. A high end figure is probably 35-40 Mbps bitrate. Low end for a blu ray could be 10-15 Mbps. least out of the couple main movie BD rips i checked thats a good estimation in my mind.
 

glen

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A high end figure is probably 35-40 Mbps bitrate. Low end for a blu ray could be 10-15 Mbps. least out of the couple main movie BD rips i checked thats a good estimation in my mind.

Thank you. Blu-Ray is also compressed. Is "HD" more compressed?
Seems like we ought to know this because it affeects our modem, router, and maybe even the Blu-Ray as well. Surely someone else has run down this path and checked all the figures. Anyone else care to weigh in?
 

NutBucket

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Blu-ray is the least compressed HD media commonly available.

So yes, bit rate is quite large. Cable and Satellite broadcasters have to compress the shit out of the HD channels due to limited bandwidth. That's why broadcast TV almost always trumps cable/sat.
 

JackBurton

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Thank you. Blu-Ray is also compressed. Is "HD" more compressed?
Seems like we ought to know this because it affeects our modem, router, and maybe even the Blu-Ray as well. Surely someone else has run down this path and checked all the figures. Anyone else care to weigh in?

Let's be specific, Blu-ray is broken up into 2 parts, HD video and HD audio. The video is compressed, however the HD audio (TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio) is not (lossless).
 
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Kirby64

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Let me put it this way: I use a E3000 and E2000 pair (both over 5ghz) to stream my media in an area with little-to-no interference. It uses a 40MHz wide channel so you could have up to 300MBps of theoretical bandwidth. Streaming videos from computer to PS3 sometimes has issues with MKVs with a data rate of only around 10-15Mbit/s. I doubt you'll have a chance at streaming to your device using full, Blu-ray rips. Bit rate on those can easily be 50Mbit/s. If you want it to work properly, use wired. Even better, use wired gigabit. Anything over 2.4GHz in an area even remotely crowded is a bad idea. Interference will murder you. Even if you have no neighbors, microwaves, bluetooth, cordless phones, or a million over things can cause problems.

TL;DR: Unless you have a stupidly expensive setup over wireless(you don't), don't bother trying to stream HD video over Wi-Fi. Stick to ethernet, save yourself the hassle.
 

glen

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Let me put it this way: I use a E3000 and E2000 pair (both over 5ghz) to stream my media in an area with little-to-no interference. It uses a 40MHz wide channel so you could have up to 300MBps of theoretical bandwidth. Streaming videos from computer to PS3 sometimes has issues with MKVs with a data rate of only around 10-15Mbit/s. I doubt you'll have a chance at streaming to your device using full, Blu-ray rips. Bit rate on those can easily be 50Mbit/s. If you want it to work properly, use wired. Even better, use wired gigabit. Anything over 2.4GHz in an area even remotely crowded is a bad idea. Interference will murder you. Even if you have no neighbors, microwaves, bluetooth, cordless phones, or a million over things can cause problems.

TL;DR: Unless you have a stupidly expensive setup over wireless(you don't), don't bother trying to stream HD video over Wi-Fi. Stick to ethernet, save yourself the hassle.
What is wired gigabit?
I think I have a 50 foot long cat5 running from my router to my blu-Ray.
All I really need to do is Watch Streaming on Huluplus and Netflix.
 

alcoholbob

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What is wired gigabit?
I think I have a 50 foot long cat5 running from my router to my blu-Ray.
All I really need to do is Watch Streaming on Huluplus and Netflix.

If you are just watching online streaming that stuff is very low bandwidth even 6MBps could handle that.
 

Kirby64

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What is wired gigabit?
I think I have a 50 foot long cat5 running from my router to my blu-Ray.
All I really need to do is Watch Streaming on Huluplus and Netflix.

I see, you don't actually mean streaming blu-ray movies from a computer to a media device on your TV. In that case, wireless should do the job fine. As noted, Hulu-plus and Netflix are both relatively low bandwidth, so you shouldn't have problems streaming them even over wireless. They also buffer quite a bit so wireless/internet problems aren't an issue.
 

glen

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I see, you don't actually mean streaming blu-ray movies from a computer to a media device on your TV. In that case, wireless should do the job fine. As noted, Hulu-plus and Netflix are both relatively low bandwidth, so you shouldn't have problems streaming them even over wireless. They also buffer quite a bit so wireless/internet problems aren't an issue.
Thank you.
It may have sounded like I meant streaming Blu-Rays by the way I asked the question.
I assumed the file size of an HD streamed movie was at least similar to a Blu-ray DVD.
I don't how I would figure out half of this stuff without you guys here.
I really appreciate it!
 

sdifox

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Let's be specific, Blu-ray is broken up into 2 parts, HD video and HD audio. The video is compressed, however the HD audio (TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio) is not (lossless).

hd audio is still compressed...Just lossless
 

bearxor

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I know we're well past what the OP has asked (is a wifi connection to my blu-ray player good enough for Netflix/Hulu? Yes.) but I have a WNDR3700 and have no problems streaming 30Mbit video to my computer over 5ghz wifi.

Don't forget that having n on either 2.4 or 5 isn't going to really matter if you're still using a 10/100 switch for everything. Everything in my house is gigabit now.
 

JackBurton

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hd audio is still compressed...Just lossless

Correct. I should have been clearer. I think that the OP equated compression to loss in quality, but like you stated, it IS compressed, however there is no loss in quality. It's similar to zipping a file.
 
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glen

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So, how do I switch to gigabit?
Does that mean buying a new modem? Router? Ethernetcard?

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sdifox

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So, how do I switch to gigabit?
Does that mean buying a new modem? Router? Ethernetcard?

Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using Tapatalk 2

If you are streaming netflix only, going gigabit network is not going to help you unless you got a fiber connection to your house. even then, streaming netflix won't use all of your fiber bandwidth. Only if you are going to stream HD files from your file server to your playback device will gigabit help.
 
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